jd dealer markup?

[TMR]

Ask yourself if you were a dealer would you sell your product to those who only want to buy for nothing over your cost, or as low as they wanted you to take? NO should be your answer. If not you have no respect for the guy you want to buy the product from. The retail seller's mark-up is how they stay in business. Figure out what you're willing to spend, and find something to match your price point or not.
Anything else is wasting the dealer's time.

Not wasting a dealer's time to find out if he believes his products are worth 100% of MSRP while his fellow dealers may feel 90% or maybe 85% of MSRP allows them to make an acceptable profit? Do you pay MSRP for your Ford's or Chevy's? Why shouldn't OP find out what the "universe" of JD dealers "normally" discount to be sure he is getting a fair price that the competitive dealer is comfortable with?? Tom R

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Not wasting a dealer's time to find out if he believes his products are worth 100% of MSRP while his fellow dealers may feel 90% or maybe 85% of MSRP allows them to make an acceptable profit? Do you pay MSRP for your Ford's or Chevy's? Why shouldn't OP find out what the "universe" of JD dealers "normally" discount to be sure he is getting a fair price that the competitive dealer is comfortable with?? Tom R

Dealers that exist to serve themselves, not customers, dovetails into the lack of professionalism rant I posted while back.

 

[Coyote machine]

I don't buy GM or Ford. I do respect those who are in business to make a living for themselves. That means taking care of business and not giving away the store in the process. If a business owner doesn't take care of their end, their cut them to the bone on every deal buyers won't have a dealer to beat on for the bare bones deal for long.

It's not about existing for themselves, it IS about surviving in the current business climate. If the business owner doesn't make their nut they are soon gone, and then serve no one.
Weren't you looking for the absolute cheapest hydraulic oil for your new tractor just recently? Penny wise/pound foolish, IMHO.:confused2:

 

[engine29]

Agree w/ C.M.. Dealers have to make money or they won't be in business very long.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

. . . Weren't you looking for the absolute cheapest hydraulic oil for your new tractor just recently? Penny wise/pound foolish, IMHO.:confused2:

I used to hang around on motorcycle forums. There were always guys that bought a $25,000 bike loaded up with all kinds of chrome and useless butt jewelry, and then ran all over town trying to find the cheapest oil and filters for their new bike.

I didn't get it then, and I'll never get it. It's form over substance.

 

[arrow]

Ask yourself if you were a dealer would you sell your product to those who only want to buy for nothing over your cost, or as low as they wanted you to take? NO should be your answer. If not you have no respect for the guy you want to buy the product from. The retail seller's mark-up is how they stay in business. Figure out what you're willing to spend, and find something to match your price point or not.
Anything else is wasting the dealer's time.

I think the op is not looking for the guy not to make a profit. I think he is trying to get a fix on dealer cost to base what he should offer over mark up. It's an approach but not necessarily fool proof. Some people just feel more comfortable with what they believe is an "educated" offer. Other people don't even use a teaspoon to measure how much sugar they put in the coffee.

 

[Coyote machine]

I think the op is not looking for the guy not to make a profit. I think he is trying to get a fix on dealer cost to base what he should offer over mark up. It's an approach but not necessarily fool proof. Some people just feel more comfortable with what they believe is an "educated" offer. Other people don't even use a teaspoon to measure how much sugar they put in the coffee.

What the OP may or may not be looking for is mostly irrelevant to dealer cost of tractors, Chevys, Fords, or cattle futures. Fact is the manufacturers hold the cards on what things cost. The dealers work for them, and have some ability to adjust prices based on many factors. Ultimately it's a game like any other, and the buyer is meant to be ill equipped to level the playing field.
The deck is always stacked, and 'dems the facts Jack!:confused3:

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Unless you've fallen in love and no matter what, gotta have X, shopping for the best price is the way to go because everything is negotiable—even when people think things aren't. Spend as much time as possible with the dealer. Take their time. Then ask the dealer is how has their day gone? There is no wrong answer. Good, bad, or indifferent, all they need do to get another sale is write X up at X price. If they say yes, the first time round, you offered too much. If they say no, ask them why they don't want a sale? Ask them what is the hinderance and be friendly about it. Whip out a business card tell them to call. Come back in a week or two. Spend as much time as you can with the dealer, get them invested in selling you something because they've invested their time, and move your offer up and pull the same routine.

Either the dealer eventually cracks and meets your price, or the dealer finds out about the swell machine you purchased down the road. I wise purchasing manager can do this all day long without burning bridges.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you pay so long as you perceive that you've received value for your consideration and you can tell that to the dealer to find out exactly where they hold their value is. You'll need a good sales person to pick up on that because they may not be able to move much on price but can wing in stuff. For example: extended warrantees are sold as an insurance product. Thus the cost to the dealer is reasonably low but the sky is the limit for retail pricing. Get the dealer to starting winging is apparel, hats, warrantees, free rides, free service, and so forth.

I love negotiating.

 

[Coyote machine]

Take their time and wait 'till they 'crack', you are no doubt a shrewd 'negotiator'. Lookout dealers, here comes the negotiator.:shocked: Whittle up your absolute best price or loose the sale of a lifetime!:confused3:

 

[arrow]

What the OP may or may not be looking for is mostly irrelevant to dealer cost of tractors, Chevys, Fords, or cattle futures. Fact is the manufacturers hold the cards on what things cost. The dealers work for them, and have some ability to adjust prices based on many factors. Ultimately it's a game like any other, and the buyer is meant to be ill equipped to level the playing field.
The deck is always stacked, and 'dems the facts Jack!:confused3:

Everything you say is true. Mark-up is based on dealer overheads whether it be paying for utilities, the son's drug addiction, the guy suing him, etc, etc. If indeed the op is looking for a "list" price to govern an offer, then he can only get so far based on the wishes of the dealership as they are the one's holding the product. They can only say "yes or no" to an offer. Once one (the buyer) starts "asking" , he has lost control of the purchase. People seem to put all the cards on "did I get the best price" instead of "boy I'm really happy I have this equipment and don't give too craps what others have payed". So I would say this: If an item such as a mower costs $8000 or has a tag saying "$7999". The "worth" of the mower to me is not the just the price but how does this enhance my life. So in my mind, I'm happy to have offered $7500 and get my equipment that has just saved me 2 hrs of cutting time and can only feel happy for the guy if I find out who got the same equipment for $7K. Other than that I could care less who payed what for what and that includes the dealer. Why invent more stress.