trlong
Platinum Member
JD PTO Gen and Q\'s
I know there are a lot of threads on PTO Generators. However, I haven't found any mention of the J.D. 10kW generator, apparently marketed for the 2210 and other similar (24hp, 19 hp PTO) CUT's. I just saw one at the local J.D. dealer, attached to a 2210 (unsure of the company making it for J.D.). The pricetag, ofcourse (J.D.) nearly floored me (~ $2,300) but then I started figuring up comparable genny's with 3ph mounting (or trailer) and driveline, shipping, etc... Now I'm not so sure they are far out of line. The $2,300 includes the 3ph mount (kindof a carryall, tube steel), driveline, they're local, and they'd deliver.
Inquiring minds still would like some thoughts on;
1. What should the reasonable conversion factor be between rated pto hp output to rated kW output? [I've heard everything from about 2/3rds to 1/3rd]. I would think, perhaps erroneously, that since 19 hp ~ = 14.1 kw, then obviously some efficeincy losses (20%?) would get down to about 11.3 kW, then de-rating to 80% would get one to ~ 9 kW (too much de-rating?). This would oversize the 10kW unit for the 2210, a little. Would 10 kW be reasonable for a 19 hp rated pto?
2. Since, for me, any "backup generator" would be just that, backup (or just to run a few small power tools away from line power), is an automatic vs. manual utility power transfer switch worth it? My wife might find it handy but, it is doubtful she would attach the genny to the tractor, back it to the house, connect it, and start it up.
3. I don't expect to run the house during a power outage, as if line power were available. I would expect to just keep the fridge, freezer, water pump (1/2 hp, 130' deep), and maybe a 60w light or two going, for a few hours as needed. I see a number of limited circuit backup transfer switches. Any thoughts on these, vs. cutting off the mains from line power, entirely? One place told me that they install 6 or 8 circuit transfer switches and just have the home owner shut off breakers to circuits that are not crutial. I'm not enamored with using circuit breakers as switches and certainly not the GFI's which have more limited life cycles (I believe).
Guess that's enough to chew on for a while.
Tom
I know there are a lot of threads on PTO Generators. However, I haven't found any mention of the J.D. 10kW generator, apparently marketed for the 2210 and other similar (24hp, 19 hp PTO) CUT's. I just saw one at the local J.D. dealer, attached to a 2210 (unsure of the company making it for J.D.). The pricetag, ofcourse (J.D.) nearly floored me (~ $2,300) but then I started figuring up comparable genny's with 3ph mounting (or trailer) and driveline, shipping, etc... Now I'm not so sure they are far out of line. The $2,300 includes the 3ph mount (kindof a carryall, tube steel), driveline, they're local, and they'd deliver.
Inquiring minds still would like some thoughts on;
1. What should the reasonable conversion factor be between rated pto hp output to rated kW output? [I've heard everything from about 2/3rds to 1/3rd]. I would think, perhaps erroneously, that since 19 hp ~ = 14.1 kw, then obviously some efficeincy losses (20%?) would get down to about 11.3 kW, then de-rating to 80% would get one to ~ 9 kW (too much de-rating?). This would oversize the 10kW unit for the 2210, a little. Would 10 kW be reasonable for a 19 hp rated pto?
2. Since, for me, any "backup generator" would be just that, backup (or just to run a few small power tools away from line power), is an automatic vs. manual utility power transfer switch worth it? My wife might find it handy but, it is doubtful she would attach the genny to the tractor, back it to the house, connect it, and start it up.
3. I don't expect to run the house during a power outage, as if line power were available. I would expect to just keep the fridge, freezer, water pump (1/2 hp, 130' deep), and maybe a 60w light or two going, for a few hours as needed. I see a number of limited circuit backup transfer switches. Any thoughts on these, vs. cutting off the mains from line power, entirely? One place told me that they install 6 or 8 circuit transfer switches and just have the home owner shut off breakers to circuits that are not crutial. I'm not enamored with using circuit breakers as switches and certainly not the GFI's which have more limited life cycles (I believe).
Guess that's enough to chew on for a while.
Tom
