I am not putting down on the 8n, it is just that when I looked at the trators around here when I was wanting to buy, the used 8n's, and comparible tractors where going for what I could buy the 204 brand new for. What I am compairing is "bang for buck". Sales types around here are real proud of their used equipment, esp. tractors. The newbe of the big3 was out of the question for me, so used is what I was looking at. Unless I wanted to go with somthing that was ragged out already I could not find a good deal on a used tractor. Most used compact 2w or 4w drive tractors range was $5000 to $8000 even the grey markets around here were around $4500 to $5000. So you do the math I picked up my 204 brand new with 2yr warrenty from a dealer (did not do crate) for $5800. To me a deal I could not refuse, I have about 36 hours on it so far and have been real happy with it's performance, had a few very minor issues with it at first mostly caused by my lack of expirance with this type tractor, all fixable by me at home. The 4x4 was a very big plus because of the hilly area I live in, was scared a 2wd would have had problems around my house. Part of it too is that my red 204 jinma is durn SEXY!! Atleast my wife thanks so.