Job review...

[3930dave]

3930dave, our cost reports came out on Tuesday afternoon, if you had a cost code in the toilet, by Thursday morning there would be one of the owners on your job site wanting to hear your side of the story. We and everybody in the company management new where a job was financially.

Tight Control, and immediate Follow-Up by Mgmt - sounds like a well run business to me ! :thumbsup:

Nobody wants to see Cost Overruns.

A Cost Overrun is a Problem. A Cost Overrun with no meaningful and verifiable explanation is a PROBLEM.

Like with most Control loops, Overruns are best caught early. At that stage, it may be possible to negotiate a contract variance, if the root cause is legitimately unforseen and unlikely - that's one big reason I'd want to see the data early.

That sounds like a company I'd work for - Demanding, but also on top of their game. (Many companies just focus on the Demanding part ).

Rgds, D.

 

[Shield Arc]

Yes 3930dave it was a really good outfit, best I ever worked for! One of my best friends who we worked together for several different companies for 30-years as partners, foremen, and superintendents. He was the project superintendents of this bridge project. The day they sent him back home they handed him a bonus check for 1/4-million dollars! You think our company made some money on this bridge?:laughing:

 

[3930dave]

IMO that's the way to do it - everybody works like heck, but in a professional manner.... add in just a tiny bit of luck, and everybody should take home an appropriate, but sizeable bonus.

:thumbsup:

Rgds, D.

 

[weldermike]

Punch someone in the face and be done with it. Fired or never fd with again, and done! Or keep whining like a girl!

 

[Arc weld]

"If management is busy focusing on expansion and recruitment efforts, they probably are not going to take time out to think about retention."

I think you have nailed it! All the management and a couple others are all excited about the new shop and I think they just "assume" that everybody else is just as excited. You know what happens when you assume things? I think it would be a good idea if the management sat down and talked to everyone individually to explain their vision and what they are looking for from the individual employees and what the employees thoughts/concerns are. In a group setting doesn't work. If I'm expected to be the lead hand on the order desk, I think I should be compensated accordingly. I'm not looking forward to taking an hour or more to get to and from work because of bad weather. As my current supervisor already mentioned, they need to think about people having to spend an extra couple hundred bucks a month driving to work. Otherwise it's equivalent to a pay cut. As far as my review, I was specifically told this place wasn't like where I came from and I would have a review after 3 month's. It's been over 6 month's so I'm wondering what the deal is?

 

[milkman636]

Be careful not to make assumptions yourself. Keep a level head and ask the questions that will provide you with good information to base your approach on.

 

[Arc weld]

I'm keeping an open mind, considering I'm still there. I think I lived up to my expectations and just wish the company would do the same. Is that too much to ask?

 

[ThomasH]

Actually, it might be. Your boss may have said what he did about reviews with the best of intentions. Now he is told that everything pay wise is frozen for a while until they digest the costs of expansion. There could be a number of things at play. And of course, crappy management is always a possibility as it is reality at a lot of places. If it was me, I would make myself valuable in a lot of ways and also be looking around. There is *nothing* that motives an employer like losing a perceived good employee to someone else because of a small pay raise. Either they will quickly offer you a raise or they don't care at all. Either is good to know. Either way you win, as you can move along to another better paying opportunity. This method has worked for me for years...

Tom

 

[jerrybob]

I know it's only 6 month's but it's also 3 month's after they said I would get a review. I took them at their word and guess that was a mistake?

Try this.....get a blank performance review.....write your own review and submit it to your manager. Put you manager's name on the sig. line.......suggest he/she either change it appropriately or sign it. They'll probably promote you to supervisor for your assertiveness and writing skills. Good luck!

 

[muddstopper]

This is just my opinion, yes I have one just like everybody else.

Any company will have one major goal that trumps everthing else. That is to make money. You are there for the company benefit, the company doesnt exsist for your benefit. Some folks have a hard time digesting that fact. You provide a service that is a benefit for the company, otherwise they dont need you. As soon as you stop being a benefit to the company, you are out the door.

For whatever service or benefit you provide the company, you should be justly compenstated. Sometimes just payment isnt up to your direct supervisor, he has to answer to higher up's too afterall. What is up to your supervisor is your reviews and his recommendations as to whether or not you are performing up to or better than expectations. Your supervisors boss may not know anything about what kind of job you are doing, good or bad. If you feel you are doing such good work as to justify more compenstaion, and your supervisor doesnt seem to notice or care, its time you have a friendly chat, one on one, with your supervisor. Find out what he thinks, tell him your concerns and ask for his opinion, but never demand a raise. Demands always create tension and when it comes to your boss, his is always bigger than yours. If after a friendly chat with the boss, and your concerns havent been answered, its time to look for a new job. Hunt in seceret, you want to have a new job before you leave you old one.

Hints around the work place that you are looking for new employment will get back to the boss sooner or later and the results can be just as negative as they could be positive. You boss might offer more money, but he could just as well fire you before you get that new job you are looking for. What ever you do, the stubborn, macho, throw things up in their face attitude will only make things worse. Be nice, talk calmly, be reasonable and if that doesnt work, start getting sneakly about hunting a new job.