Jobs Market isChanging

[Slowpoke Slim]

We have a unique "venue" up here. There's not much in the experienced trade's labor pool up here. Electricians, plumbers, HVAC, and especially commercial fire alarm. Everyone with experience that wants to work (and is good), already has a job. The only ones that can't keep a job are the worthless ones, and they pass back and forth between what few companies there are. New, inexperienced/untrained techs don't want to learn, or don't want to work at it. They think they can come in off the street, knowing little to nothing about the trade, and pull in top dollar like the seasoned/journeymen/master techs. My last apprentice left at 1 year. He didn't want to get up early, didn't want to travel (mostly around western ND), and didn't like that he was starting out much lower on the pay scale because he was new. He also wasn't interested in studying to pass exams to get his certifications. Even though that was the path that would lead to "making the big bucks", he thought he should get the "big bucks" first.

On a side note, any commercial fire alarm techs that have solid experience, have their cert (NICET), and want to move to ND, I can about garranty you will have a job for life (if you want it) and can just about write your own ticket on pay and benefits.

 

[ArlyA]

On a side note, any commercial fire alarm techs that have solid experience, have their cert (NICET), and want to move to ND, I can about garranty you will have a job for life (if you want it) and can just about write your own ticket on pay and benefits.

We have friends in Grassy Butte and have spent time out there.

 

[tradosaurus]

There are some good young workers and there are some really crappy workers. Woman are quickly dominating the corporate workforce. Our men our struggling. It seems the ones raised by single mothers are bearing the brunt of their situations. They just don't know how to work anymore nor are they being taught by a man how to be a man.

A bunch of beta males...It's ok, woman will need to fill that gap.

That's even worse!

 

[Snobdds]

It's not so much that "they aren't being taught by a man how to be a man". It's that they don't want to get the skills required for a good paying jobs. A large number of working age men are simply dropping out of the workforce. Women still get paid less than men, but they are closing the gap by substantially outperforming men in getting post secondary education. Smart beats macho.

We have an entire generation that has daddy issues for both men and woman. They even freely admit it. Don't be naive that it's just they don't want to get the skills required for good paying jobs.

 

[Snobdds]

That's even worse!

Woman have taken over the corporate world. It isn't happening, it's happened.

There are some good things and bad things that come with that. The one big downside is woman let feelings get in the way of professional relationships and they are vengeful. Woman are the worst to other woman.

 

[jyoutz]

Woman have taken over the corporate world. It isn't happening, it's happened.

There are some good things and bad things that come with that. The one big downside is woman let feelings get in the way of professional relationships and they are vengeful. Woman are the worst to other woman.

My field is now about 60% men, 40% women. I find the women to be very professional and good leaders.

 

[MossRoad]

I've found winners and losers in both sexes when it comes to all job fields. Yes, you can make generalizations about how either accomplishes the means to an end, however, effective managers and workers know when it's being done correctly. You follow your leaders and overthrow your rulers, regardless of gender.

I've also found, through a lifetime of observations, that men that complain about women mucking up the work place are most likely to have serious issues with women themselves.

 

[ArlyA]

Sounds like this younger generation is just lazy scum. Not good, like us older ones are.

 

[MossRoad]

Sounds like this younger generation is just lazy scum. Not good, like us older ones are.

Agreed.

 

[Snobdds]

Yes, you can make generalizations about how either accomplishes the means to an end,

I've also found, through a lifetime of observations, that men that complain about women mucking up the work place are most likely to have serious issues with women themselves.

Nice...