John Deere 6430 Premium Cab "Problems"

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CBJHSN2006

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I was wondering if anyone else out their that owns or operates a John Deere 6430 Premium Cab has had problems with it saying there is water in the fuel and countless other codes. The one we have was purchase in 2008 new and seems to have had problems since about 30 hours of use. It now has 1200 some odd hours on it and the dealer basically has no fix for it, besides to keep draining what it calls water; which is a very hard task and makes it hard to get anything accomplished.
 
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Well today I talked to the JD customer service rep for my division, after no luck with a fix from my dealer, so now we will just have to see if anything matures from this now. If any one has any suggestions or feed back on this please feel free to comment.
 
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well i though i was the only one who seen this problem i havea 6330 premium cab that had the same thing wrong with it replaced the high pressure pump and elerict fuel pump changed the fuel pump fuel temp sensor turbo sensor and still it keeps poping up change fuel filter every time it goes to john deere it works fine for about a day or two the comes back on the screen and they said if it does it again it might have a bad injector but i dont know they more less cant figure it out and its done this about 8 times already but john deere cant figure it out
 
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well i though i was the only one who seen this problem i havea 6330 premium cab that had the same thing wrong with it replaced the high pressure pump and elerict fuel pump changed the fuel pump fuel temp sensor turbo sensor and still it keeps poping up change fuel filter every time it goes to john deere it works fine for about a day or two the comes back on the screen and they said if it does it again it might have a bad injector but i dont know they more less cant figure it out and its done this about 8 times already but john deere cant figure it out

Hey guys how are you. I am currently having the same issues with my 2008 Deere 6430 premium. Changed filters code still appears after being cleared on my monitor. Drained tank cleaned it spotless. Replaced transfer pumped and all braided lines. Replaced all ss hard lines aswell to the new style of routing because John Deere discontinued the original Lines the machine came with. Another set of filters, and fresh tank of fuel from a different supplier and through in some diesel additive. Same problem occurs. Machine runs great for about an hour then filter code appears, machine power gets put into limp mode and I'm back in the garage. I arranged for John Deere to come out and diagnose the issue and this won't be the first time. Had the injectors replaced two years ago after jd came out to service the same type of issue. There are currently 3600 hrs on this machine. It's used everyday for 10 hrs to groom our towns beach with a barber surf rake. Anyone find any solutions???
 
   / John Deere 6430 Premium Cab "Problems" #5  
Yeah, get rid of that high priced overrated tractor. JD green isn't what it used to be.
 
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Yeah, get rid of that high priced overrated tractor. JD green isn't what it used to be.

Thanks for the helpful sarcasm. But I don't own the tractor the township does. I just operate and repair the equipment when needed. So while waiting until next week for jd to come out I'm doing what I can to try to get it going.
 
   / John Deere 6430 Premium Cab "Problems" #7  
It sounds like the sensor is too sensitive. JD may need to redesign.
 
   / John Deere 6430 Premium Cab "Problems" #8  
Have they changed the sensor? Have you had your fuel tested for water? I believe your Premium has a common rail fuel system - high injection pressures, super fuel atomization, but water molecules are larger and more abrasive than diesel fuel so they do everything possible to keep it out. The sensor should help you but it looks like yours have gone to the dark side and are fighting back. New sensor and a strongly worded, but civil, letter to the CEO of Deere. I'm not familiar with the current one but in general CEO's don't like letters from irate customers. Irate customers = non-repeat customers and they tell all their friends and enemies = more lost customers.
 
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Incidentally the 6430 is one of the more desirable models produced. The premium cab upgrade perhaps the industry's best offering at the time of release. It seems clear you have a computer problem not a mechanical one. Hopefully your local Deere service folks will be up to that challenge. Please advise if the city wants to dispose of the tractor.
 
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Most likely a "computer" issue. It happens in car computers often,
where there are "recall's" to have them "re-programmed'.
The sensitivity or threshold of the allowable limit most likely needs to be lowered.
After enough complaint's, they'll do a recall. IMO.
 
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We have TWO JD 6430 Premium Cab Tractors...2008 Models and we are having this water in the fuel code problem with both tractors. The tractors run fine for a short time and then switch to reduced power mode and choke down. We have drained the fuel tanks, changed the lines and filters more times than I can count, changed the sensors and unplugged the sensors. One of the tractors ran pretty well without the sensor, but has now reverted back to having problems. Has anyone found a resolution to this problem?
 
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JD 6430 Premium cab, I noticed the date of the last posting and would like to ask if anyone has been able to resolve these problems with the 2008 JD 6430 Premium? I’ve recently purchased a 6430 Premium and love the tractor BUT there are several problems that continue to raise concerns and problems. Like: water in fuel after replacing sensor and filters, engine pressure problems that make it hard to start at times after replacing battery and rebuilding starter, derated power for whatever reasons and the 50 + other codes that continue to pop up regularly.
 
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Not familiar with this tractor, but everything is founded in basics. The water-in-fuel issue, I'd think, could be dealt with by wiring up the sensor wires to an appropriate external resistance load (resistor): I suspect that it's functioning more as an "open," so minimal resistance should work (complete removal/bypassing of sensor may not work because it might be because the engine management system might expect to see "some" resistance. Of course, one would need to be diligent to actually inspect for water in fuel on a regular basis: maybe install, if it doesn't already have one, if it does, maybe add another one(?), a separate water filter. If the engine management system is derating based on the water sensor then This derating issue should be taken care of.

"Engine pressure problems that make it hard to start at times" - that would be fuel pressure problems. Here too I figure it's an issue founded in the basics. Either the injection pump has an air leak (failing gaskets/seals) or the fuel delivery system leading up to the IP has an air leak problem. As air molecules are far smaller than fuel molecules you can have leaks that don't leak fuel, they leak (in) air. Starting with excess air in the fuel tends to show up as lots of white smoke out the exhaust. Look to pressurize your fuel lines (and filter head and its bits), see if they can hold pressure (not sure what is a proper pressure to test with, maybe 10 lbs). You could also do the same post-filter, directing at the IP. DO NOT mess with any lines post-IP, as these pumps operate under/with very high pressures. Not sure why tractor manufacturers (well, I can't say I know about ALL tractor manufacturers, but I have yet to see it) don't use a bit of clear fuel line leading up to IPs, which would allow you to see if there's air in the fuel lines (my cars are this way). If these tractors have separate fuel pumps then I'd also be checking those out (a properly operating one ought to be able to overcome most air leaks).

Lots of other codes popping up may be the result of a marginal electrical system (perhaps some chaffed wires- keep in mind that just because wire may be inside a wire loom that doesn't mean that it's protected- over time wire looms can actually chafe the wires that they're supposed to protect!), or perhaps a bad/flaky engine management computer. I'm more familiar with older automotive diesel engine management systems on VW TDIs (VE engines), and these also can have some "basket case" of error codes being produced by/from bad/flaky relays. A wiring diagram is going to be essential for tracking down where the problems are coming from. Sadly, that no one seems to have gotten any solution from JD themselves, whom I'd figure most certainly should have picked over the very things I'm saying here, doesn't bode well for finding a resolution; always, however, it's ONE person who discovers the source of the problem, and perhaps YOU can be that person!
 

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