John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts

   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #11  
If left in MFWD while driving on a surface that some tire slip cannot happen, then a lot of stress can build up in the drive train.
But such surfaces likely do not require engagement in MFWD. Surfaces such as snow or mud will allow the slip, and normally the front wheels are designed to travel slightly faster than the rears.

I shift my 4300 in and out of MFWD depending on the need and the surface.

My :2cents:
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #12  
I would say that it would be good to check the mounted diameter and circumference of your current tires (properly aired up). that gives you a benchmark to compare your new tires to. How much more will it cost to get your tires from a dealer (compared to online and freight)? Sometimes they will mount them for free.
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts
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#13  
I would say that it would be good to check the mounted diameter and circumference of your current tires (properly aired up). that gives you a benchmark to compare your new tires to. How much more will it cost to get your tires from a dealer (compared to online and freight)? Sometimes they will mount them for free.

thats a good idea, its up getting hydraulic hoses swapped out in the garage right now so probably as good a time as any. There's a couple websites with free shipping that put the Super Trenchers on sale every now and then so the savings winds up being a couple hundred bucks off list, but i haven't put good effort into shopping around locally for tires either.

I think one of my take-aways in all of this though, through research and shared experience, is that i should have MFWD engaged less than i do. I probably keep it on 80-90% of the time and its definitely not needed that much. property is hilly, but the areas i have been working are relatively flat.
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #14  
I would say that it would be good to check the mounted diameter and circumference of your current tires (properly aired up). that gives you a benchmark to compare your new tires to. How much more will it cost to get your tires from a dealer (compared to online and freight)? Sometimes they will mount them for free.

Hmmmmmmm,, that is a great concept,, but, maybe not realistic in this situation,,

The 650 is SO old, there is little chance that the original front tires are on the tractor,,

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When I got mine, both front tires are different,, and both have been on there so long,,
you can not tell which one has been on the longest!!

If you look at the specs of that front tire from different manufacturers,,
I think you will find each manufacturer has a different rolling diameter,

I have three 4WD tractors, and I have different ways of adjusting the air pressure for each tractor.

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In ALL cases,, I run in 2WD 100% of the time, unless traction needs demand 4WD.
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts
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So I ran 95% of the day in 2wd. I have got bridgestones on it that exactly like the ones on your 650. Did fine with the loader work I was doing today, just do not know how much of that abuse they can take. The fronts are 2ply which I think are somewhere between bubble gum and play doh so they were getting pulled pretty good while I was turning. I think I may just pull the trigger on the more aggressive tread and try and alter my behavior to only have MFWD engaged when needed.
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #16  
The fronts are 2ply which I think are somewhere between bubble gum and play doh

The problem is that exact size tire is ultra common on many garden tractors,
so many tire manufacturers offer a VERY light duty tire for mowing-type service,,

I have been waiting for one of mine to pop,, then I will get some 4 or 6 ply tires that were designed for mini diesel service,,
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #17  
The circumference has some contemplation but the loaded radius is the important measurement when looking at your tires for matching up properly.
If you look at the tables the manufactures publish for the larger tires you will find circumference and loaded radius as well as loaded rolling circumference,
the loaded radius will calculate out to the loaded rolling circumference. The measured circumference quite often, almost never, equates to the loaded rolling circumference.
That said I would not expect you to have much issue with the tires you are looking at, the lead lag can be adjusted with tire pressure also.
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #18  
In my opinion, you might not find AG style tires that fit the rim of your turf tires and match the circumference at the same time.
AG tires with a comparable circumference compared to turfs usually need larger rims in diameter.
I agree, talk to a tire guy who knows his job.
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #19  
Here are the original speced tires regarding tractordata.Screenshot_20200504-131648_Chrome.jpeg
 
   / John Deere 650 tire replacement thoughts #20  
The tires he is considering are the same diameter as referenced in TractorData.
 

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