John Deere just swindled farmers out of their right to repair.

[RalphVa]

The sad part about what John Deere and others are doing is that all of the necessary diagnostics could be built into the software of the implement. You shouldn't need a "tech" to come and diagnose.

I certainly agree with this. If the diagnostics can be built into a little gizmo that you plug into a box on your car/truck/tractor, they can be built in as part of the vehicle. All dash boards are becoming just LCDs. Just feed the diagnosis back to the dashboard.

Ralph

 

[pmsmechanic]

I wonder if John Deere could be held liable for crop losses whether this issue might just disappear.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Most of the computers I have owned were stand alone. You got disks to load software and updates. Now a computer is pretty much useless without an internet connection. I have little doubt that our goose is cooked already with reliance on the Internet, but I can't see vehicles and tractors needing to be connected to the Internet as very far in the future, and then we are really screwed when it all goes for one giant sheit!

 

[strantor]

the diagnostic software is available to ALL end users, just have to pay for it....just like the dealers.

So you have it then? Where did you get it? Where can I get it?

John Deere Diagnostic Options - Diesel Laptops Blog

The problem comes into the other side of the equation The diagnostic software. John Deere dealers refuse to sell this software to anyone. This includes owners of the equipment, repair shops, or anyone else for the matter. The reason for this is simple: Dealers don稚 want anyone besides themselves to perform John Deere diagnostic tests and commands, since it would in sense be money leaving their own pockets.