John Deere's poor dealership decision making IMO.

[KNOWITALL]

So, with your philosophy, why is Ford discontinuing car manufacturing in the U.S.?

There's way more profit in high end product.

No there is not.


I don't understand how Ford not manufacturing cars in the U.S.is relevant at all to my statement. Buttttttt....you asked so I'll take a stab at it and throw a few key reasons.

1) Lazy want way more than they are worth UAW Yankees in Michigan and Illinois

2) Honda Toyota, Nissan.

3) I'm a man, men don't drive front wheel drive cars....might as well duct tape your junk to the back of your thighs.........come on man.

And tractor bidness is night and day to the automobile industry, I know because this is how earn my paycheck.

 

[Ken]

Most of this discussion is the purchase of new equipment. then there is the repair of tractors or attachments that fail break or need fixing.
My example is under warranty a D130 Lawn Mower coughed and died. Decided to take to J D repair shop since not running.
Over a week before could get to the mower because there is mowers, tractors stacked awaiting for repair.
The mechanic is young seems to know but the recent purchase of dealership caused the older workers to retire.

Now going on 3 weeks and still have not repaired. so I'm having to consider picking it back up taking to shade tree fixer or let it sit until some one decides to fix and get it out of the shop.

I know it will never again return to where it was purchased for repair.
ken

 

[ovrszd]

ummmmm.....these guys​

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Not even close.....

 

[JWR]

Don't know if this is the right thread to complain on BUT the title looks right: Deere is forcing the smaller traditional dealers out of business every time they get a chance.

This happened in West Virginia where they forced L&T in Buckhannon out of business around 15 years ago. L&T switched to AGCO/MF and eventually the same story. WV is inherently a small market with people busting *** to work farms at all. Deere doesn't care if these genuine hard working people have to go 100 miles and more to find a dealer. Neither do they care if these small farmers just go out of business. By all evidence they prefer that those people go out of business. The small farmers are just pesky. Don't produce promotions.

This year in Southern MD the ONLY JD dealer south of Waldorf in business for 78 years I think (Carrolls) was forced out by Deere. Fine print of the contract said they could so they did.

In EVERY CASE the big corporate thugs (may I reveal my bias and just say THUGS from here on?) are being run by business majors with accounting concerns who do not want to support or deal with smaller dealers AT ALL. The smaller dealers do not line the pockets fast enough. Do not show sales figures that cause promotions in high places. Those small family-owned, customer oriented, GOOD dealers are a kind of pain to the office dwelling buttholes and the THUGS.

The model Deere wants (and is slowly but surely forcing on all of us) is the mega dealer corporations that have at least several nearly normal dealer subsidiaries -- multi-million dollar business bullies, THUGS, with subsidiaries dominating each region. In my view FARMING is the furthest thing from any mind involved. They want ONLY big business, only corporate profit orientation, and DO NOT CARE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM about the hardest working agricultural people left in this country. Go for the profits. Run the smaller guys out if you can as fast as you can. If you can't do it today, do it next year. Screw the customer. Stay away from individual customers if at all possible. Deal only with large corporations where 'parts' means dealing with a buyer not a user.

This is a hideous NATIONAL shame amounting to the demise of REALLY GOOD SMALL DEALERS who do in fact work with and care about individual farmers and hard working people who are not high rollers or investors.

THIS STINKS. IT IS INSIDIOUS. IT WILL NOT STOP. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT DEERE AND THE INDUSTRY IS WORKING TOWARDS.

 

[Diggin It]

And yet the green disease continues to ravage rural America. No mask can help that.

 

[beenthere]

JWR
Looks like you don't own a Deere..

I don't like to see it either, but think it is easier and more profitable for Deere as a Corp. to work with (and push around) a larger dealership than have to deal with the whining and troubles that small ownerships have throughout the year. Not an easy life being a small dealership. Ours here was great to deal with, but finally had to yield to the pressure of keeping the dealership up to Deeres specs and move/sell the equipment Deere needed to meet their goals.

But have to face it, Deere has so far figured out how to be successful. Make a good product that people want to own.. and be successful. Deere has done good at that so far. IMO

 

[JWR]

JWR
Looks like you don't own a Deere..

I don't like to see it either, but think it is easier and more profitable for Deere as a Corp. to work with (and push around) a larger dealership than have to deal with the whining and troubles that small ownerships have throughout the year. Not an easy life being a small dealership. Ours here was great to deal with, but finally had to yield to the pressure of keeping the dealership up to Deeres specs and move/sell the equipment Deere needed to meet their goals.

But have to face it, Deere has so far figured out how to be successful. Make a good product that people want to own.. and be successful. Deere has done good at that so far. IMO

I bought a JD 4700 (in 2000 at the WV dealer they forced out of business a few years later) and used it for 11 years. While I no longer own the 4700 my son in law now has it; still in the family. Was and is a good machine. Living in Southern MD I was a customer until last month of local dealer Carroll's (getting hydraulic lines made and misc repairs not JD specific) until Deere forced them out of business using a technicality in the contract.

Undeniable that Deere is/has been successful. Also undeniable that their business model in practice, whether written or not, is aimed at pushing the smaller individual dealers out of business. In my opinion that is detrimental to all but the large agri-businesses and certainly comes down hardest on small farmers in remote areas.

 

[ultrarunner]

Prado Principal???

 

[ovrszd]

My local JD dealership has sold twice in the last 10 years. Now owned by a large corp. AG Power. They are currently constructing a new building on the site of the original " family owned" dealership in my county. 330ft x 120ft. Increasing product and parts stock beyond anything the peevious owners could imagine. I support them every chance I get. Even for non JD items.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

The last independent John Deere dealership in these parts was put out of business last year when they wouldn't sell out to Ag Pro. John Deere told them that they wouldn't be able to sell for them anymore and could no longer get parts through them, they are now selling Massey Ferguson tractors and equipment , I thought it was pretty dirty, you could always count on being able to buy a tractor about $1k or more cheaper from them than the big boys.