I have talked myself into coughing up the cash, with help from the 0 for 60 months financing, and purchased a CK 30 with a woods 72" finnish mower. I looked @ the Green, the Red, the Blue and the other orange and I guess it came down to weight. I did not get the loader because I am taking a change on the quick attatch bucket becoming available in the near future. Just wanded to say thanks to all who answered questions and had advise to share. I take delivery in two weeks so not sure if I will get chance to mow this year or not, but I can use it for gathering, splitting and hauling wood this winter............Thanks to all, Mike