Just Purchased CK2610- My Initial Thoughts

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I didn't know that either until the dealer asked if I wanted it. $400 for the massive additional capacity...seemed like a no brainier. As for the turf tires it was really the only option for me. My entire yard is grass. Can't really compare them to anything else though. Dealer said it was the best bet for 99% of buyers.

Hi 3rd Coast, I'm interested in your upgraded KL4010 loader deal you made. We looked at the CK2610HST Friday and everyone liked it. I'm curious how they got more lift out of a lighter loader. Did you happen to notice if the cylinders on the KL4010 are larger or something?
Thanks

Also do you happen to get the Link Pedals for engine acceleration when pressing the hydro pedals? My sons Kubota L3940 does that and everyone who runs it loves that.

http://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/front-end-loaders/kl2610/
KL2610 Weight (with Bucket) 915-928 lbs.

KL41 Loader | Kioti Tractors
KL4010 Weight (with Bucket) 840 lbs.
 
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   / Just Purchased CK2610- My Initial Thoughts
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Hi 3rd Coast, I'm interested in your upgraded KL4010 loader deal you made. We looked at the CK2610HST Friday and everyone liked it. I'm curious how they got my lift out of a lighter loader. Did you happen to notice if the cylinders on the KL4010 are larger or something?
Thanks

Also do you happen to get the Link Pedals for engine acceleration when pressing the hydro pedals? My sons Kubota L3940 does that and everyone who runs it loves that.

KL261 Front End Loader | Kioti Tractors
KL2610 Weight (with Bucket) 915-928 lbs.

KL41 Loader | Kioti Tractors
KL4010 Weight (with Bucket) 840 lbs.

The cylinders are larger, yes. Make sure you've got a nice ballast because it will lift a bucket FULL of gravel. I use a 72" box blade and at times the rear can get a little light but no real tipping yet.

I do not have the linked pedal and am considering getting it.
 
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I just signed on a CK2610 yesterday, it looks like it will be delivered this week. I am going to ask about the loader upgrade tomorrow...

Can the linked pedal kit be installed DIY?

Finding online OEM parts/options seems like it's a bit of a challenge in the Tractor world. I'm a DIY kind of guy, and in most other things I've owned/worked-on, OEM parts, manuals and stores are easier to find...

I can't wait for delivery day, this is our first tractor!
 
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The cylinders are larger, yes. Make sure you've got a nice ballast because it will lift a bucket FULL of gravel. I use a 72" box blade and at times the rear can get a little light but no real tipping yet.

I do not have the linked pedal and am considering getting it.

Thanks. That kinda what I was thinking. One review I read said they most likely weren't putting the heavier loader on the 2610 for fear of it hurting the sales of the 3510 and 4010. Because they're all within 30# of each other I believe. He plans on running a ballast box most of the time, probably about 700-800#.
 
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I just signed on a CK2610 yesterday, it looks like it will be delivered this week. I am going to ask about the loader upgrade tomorrow...

Can the linked pedal kit be installed DIY?

Finding online OEM parts/options seems like it's a bit of a challenge in the Tractor world. I'm a DIY kind of guy, and in most other things I've owned/worked-on, OEM parts, manuals and stores are easier to find...

I can't wait for delivery day, this is our first tractor!

The sales guy told us the linked pedals were a $300 option, for what's probably involved I'd let them do it. It's too bad they didn't make a CK2610SE model.

BTW: My wife noticed it had a horn button and she pushed it and it didn't do anything so she asked how much the horn was and he $18.
 
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I just sold my ck2510 hst the other day, going this week to look at bigger tractors, I値l have to ask about the loader upgrade, that would be cool if I can get more lift while still maintaining basically a non emission engine. That痴 why I went with the ck2510 in the first place, gonna have to look hard at the ck2610
 
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I’ve read the ck2610 was under powered. Any truth to this? Does the larger capacity loader void the warranty on the tractor?
I purchased a horn from the local auto parts store for I think under $10.
 
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I’ve read the ck2610 was under powered. Any truth to this? Does the larger capacity loader void the warranty on the tractor?
I purchased a horn from the local auto parts store for I think under $10.
No the 2610 has ample power. I've never heard it said it was underpowered.
 
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I’ve read the ck2610 was under powered. Any truth to this? Does the larger capacity loader void the warranty on the tractor?
I purchased a horn from the local auto parts store for I think under $10.

No complaints on power here. I have the 60" bucket and have not had any problems pushing into hard dirt piles.
 
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Its 24 and 1/2 HP... it is what it is. Underpowered for the HP? Or under powered compared to what?

I will say its a extremely large displacement motor for a 24.5hp. Larger than most in its HP range. Its over 1.6 liters.

It does the jobs I do and wanted it to do without being subject to tier 4 constraints. It won't do everything a 50HP tractor will do or a 100 HP will do.
 
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Well my dealer basically said no dice on the loader upgrade, said he called kioti and it would void the warranty.... I don稚 see why? Like stated earlier, I think they don稚 want to hurt the sales of the bigger models. Really kinda wanted the bigger loader, while keeping the non emissions engine.
 
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It certainly isn't listed as an option. And it does change the entire units parameters I guess.

I guess you need to now ask yourself if you need the additional. And if so then do you wish to go to a Tier 4 tractor or not to get it.

Or even ask if the tractor its on will actually deliver the additional capacity the loader itself is rated to do. The 2610 may simply not. It may or could give some of that rating its due but maybe not all of it. That may be what Kioti is saying. Its debatable I guess if it can or does do it. Since they do not seem to have tested the two together and the loader capacity is listed with the loader not the entire package. It could be valid or it could be market driven I suppose.

IIRC 3rd Coast simply found his in that configuration from a dealer. Or it was already built that way and was available. Not maybe custom ordered to be built that way. Who knows why... At least thats the way I read his story. His dealer knew one could be had that way or something. But it might just be a unicorn. It would be interesting if 3rd coast could ask his dealer how the thing all came about. It could be a dealer swap at the dealer. Or just a regional thing... or a mistake that got through the system. Id love to know now.
 
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Not sure if the CK 2610 has the same front axles as the CK3510... if it doesn’t, I would definitely make sure to have enough ballast on the 3pt to reduce the load on those front axles. More ballast than what’s recommended in the CK2610 owners manual.
That being said, I feel 3rd Coast has an awesome setup there and is being smart with that 72” box blade on the back.
 
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Well my dealer basically said no dice on the loader upgrade, said he called kioti and it would void the warranty.... I don稚 see why? Like stated earlier, I think they don稚 want to hurt the sales of the bigger models. Really kinda wanted the bigger loader, while keeping the non emissions engine.

I’d find another dealer, bud. I still find things that even this bad mama jamma won’t do, I couldn’t imagine 600lbs less capacity for the work I’m doing. All in, my tractor weights right around 4000lbs so it’s heavy enough with the attachments I have on to do some decent loader work.
 
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Not sure if the CK 2610 has the same front axles as the CK3510... if it doesn’t, I would definitely make sure to have enough ballast on the 3pt to reduce the load on those front axles. More ballast than what’s recommended in the CK2610 owners manual.
That being said, I feel 3rd Coast has an awesome setup there and is being smart with that 72” box blade on the back.

Thank you, sir. The only things I wish I’d gotten at the dealer is a linked pedal. Aftermarket I’m going to get a hydraulic top link and I should be good to go!
 
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It certainly isn't listed as an option. And it does change the entire units parameters I guess.

I guess you need to now ask yourself if you need the additional. And if so then do you wish to go to a Tier 4 tractor or not to get it.

Or even ask if the tractor its on will actually deliver the additional capacity the loader itself is rated to do. The 2610 may simply not. It may or could give some of that rating its due but maybe not all of it. That may be what Kioti is saying. Its debatable I guess if it can or does do it. Since they do not seem to have tested the two together and the loader capacity is listed with the loader not the entire package. It could be valid or it could be market driven I suppose.

IIRC 3rd Coast simply found his in that configuration from a dealer. Or it was already built that way and was available. Not maybe custom ordered to be built that way. Who knows why... At least thats the way I read his story. His dealer knew one could be had that way or something. But it might just be a unicorn. It would be interesting if 3rd coast could ask his dealer how the thing all came about. It could be a dealer swap at the dealer. Or just a regional thing... or a mistake that got through the system. Id love to know now.

When I went to the dealer to buy, he asked if I wanted the upgraded loader. He told me about how he had contacted his regional rep and asked for permission to sell this way. The rep decided that the loader upgrade would be a huge selling point over similar sized equipment and thought it a no brainer.

He simply took a new tractor out of the crate and took a new loader out of a crate and put them together. This was dealer installed. $400. No. Brainer.

Well that is the story anyway. He said he’s only sold half a dozen in this manner so it might be a rare configuration but not likely for long.

I’m happy to PM anyone the name of the dealer if interested.
 
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Thanks for the clarification. It gets interesting now! LOL
 
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I have a CK2610 HST with the KL 4030 loader (not the KL4010, but 4030). My Kioti will out lift my neighbor's 38 hp Kubota.

There is no way the loader would void the warranty since Kioti itself lists the KL4030 loader as an option if you click on "attachments," on their website, as seen here... https://www.kioti.com/products/tractors/ck10-series/ck2610-hst/

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My Kioti was selected on the basis of finding the most capable machine I could get (highest capacities) under the umbrella of the most reliable options available. I noticed all manufactures seem to have more issues with DPF and tier IV machines...so I looked for the strongest 25 hp tractor with a good reputation and Kioti won in my research. While I am no tractor expert, I did make a a few videos about my findings.

I now have 130 hours on it. I have done the scheduled maintenance...greasing, 50 hour service, checked loader mount bolts (actually removed them and added loctite and retorqued), etc...and have had no issues what so ever other than puncturing the fuel tank with the handle on a seed spreader that I borrowed that I didn't notice stuck so far out and forward I guess so the operator can reach it when it is lifted up without getting off the seat. Ordered a replacement tank without any issues and it was an easy install.

Very good machine and great price point. I would buy it again. I just wish they had more dealers.

P.S. Please excuse the dogs. I own a K9 and manage a business. The main reason for the tractor is to maintain our 9 acres of training areas.


 
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