Kama/TaiShan

[tnfarmer]

Clarification:

Overall, I am very happy with the tractor. I am located just outisde Memphis and I bought the tractor in Springfield, MO. I don't think any of my issues would be covered under warranty. I don't think I would want to make the drive back anyways.

The engine does run great. It took me a few to learn how to start it, as all tractors are somewhat different. But, once you do, the Kama starts on the first couple of turns. I would recommend one, based on the price. You can always paint it green. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Hope this helps if you are considering to buy one. I will be glad to answer any questions if you are interested in buying one.

One last note, If you are somewhar mecahnically inclined, the simplicity of the tractor makes it easy to work on versus other tractors as well. I know a John Deere that sat in a field for weeks due to a a bad sensor. Don't get me wrong, I am sure to have a Deere or Holland when money is not an issue.

Todd

 

[Bugsy]

Hey guys - just have to chime in on the issue of pricing.

Let me start with the fact that there is absolutely nothing wrong with looking for the best deal possible.

With that in mind, people must remember that the "best deal" deal can turn into the biggest disappointment ever. You see, people work, and businesses exist, for a reason - to make money to survive. Some are better at it than others. Some need more and some need less. If a person or business cannot survive, then they will not be there when you need them most.

There are many factors that go into the pricing of a product, and no, it is not the boat payment /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. (That is reserved for doctors and lawyers). Overhead is the largest factor. Another, never mentioned factor, is "goodwill". You know when you have a problem or a need and the people seemed just so nice and giving- you could not believe it.

That holds true in all businesses. If you make "price" the number one concern then it should not matter if the seller is even around when they are needed. It should not matter that they even speak to you, unless of course you are "buying", and here comes that word "price" again.

On the other hand - if you like getting that little "extra". The "free" cup of coffee. The "free" advice. Even the "free" labor or the occasional part, then "price" is no longer the main concern.

After all that, the point is that there is a balancing act between price and goodwill. Price is important, but goodwill is just as important. On long lasting investments, tractors or whatever, the "price" is worth less and less every day whereas "goodwill" is increasing in value every day that you hold your investment.

Last example: Look at Chip and Tommy, and many others. They spend hours on these boards, on the phone, and writing emails. (We know this because we do it too.) All those hours are time away from the boat, the golf course, and the yes, the family.

What would it take or what does it cost to take you away from that?

No offense to anyone, but there is more to "price" the the amount of steel or iron.

 

[JINMA224XR]

<font color="blue"> Let me start with the fact that there is absolutely nothing wrong with looking for the best deal possible. </font>

Hey Bugsy,

Thank You, and IMHO, Tractor Buyers that are considering a Chinese Tractor, are trying to get the most tractor that they can get for their Money, and Saving a Ton of Money's at the same time.

In the years to come, I think that WalMarts Philosophy will be the accepted Business Strategy, "Sell It For Less and They Will Buy It". So Far WalMart's has proven that Strategy to be true. But I think that you do have to buy your own Coffee.

Have a nice day,
Joe

 

[tat2z1969]

When I started on my quest for a new tractor I talked to about 6 different dealers, some cold, some so full of it their head hurt, others were like standing down wind from a Texas cattle ranch, all you smell is BS.
I talked to 2 that in my opinon are honest, not cheapest, HONEST. If I can not respect the dealer selling a tractor, I just can not buy from them.
Low price is nice, but for a few bucks more if I know the dealer is going to treat me right and stock parts and answer questions that need answered, well thats worth more to me then the cheapest deal.
After all, someone in business needs to make a buck and keep the lights on, I don't mind paying for a steak once in a while, but I am not paying for a dealers Lobster, wine and Limo. If you get my drift.
I first go by the conversation I have with a dealer and the information he is willing to tell you even if you haven't bought off him before, or might not now.
Second, if he is fast and pitches a quote and is done talking, the big switch goes off.
Third, If you call a few times or drop emails with questions and they are answered and you don't detect him blowing you off and takes that extra few minutes to gain you as a customer, that is a plus.
If the dealer has what YOU want and you can both come to terms for a purchase, home run.
The sale has to last for years, he received your business and he wants more of your business, you need him for product support, it all works out when terms are clear in the beginnig. Ask questions.

Jim