Kerosene in the tractor

   / Kerosene in the tractor #21  
What I don't understand is why you need this? I have 3 diesel trucks and a diesel tractor and never have any problem with #2 diesel or winter blend. I have a 300 gallon tank at home and I put 2 jugs of power serve in when its delivered and have never had a problem. I do plug the tractors block heater in 1 hour prior to use and the trucks stay outside all the time and get plugging in on the colder nights but this does nothing for the fuel system. I live in Northern Indiana and it gets **** cold, as low as 25 below a few times a winter. Now my water pipes are a different story.

Chris
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #22  
Diamondpilot said:
1*What I don't understand is why you need this?
2*I have a 300 gallon tank at home.
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Chris
1*Need What??
2*Do you have to order 300 gallon before they will come top it off?
== L B ==
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #23  
Scrounger said:
Is it save to run? Its not cheaper around here when compared to off-road diesel, .
Does Kerosene cost more there than on road diesel?
if so why would you even be interested in using kerosene.\???
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #24  
LBrown59 said:
1*Need What??
2*Do you have to order 300 gallon before they will come top it off?
== L B ==


Need to cut the fuel? No, my delivery guy has brought as little as 80 gallons and as much as the full 300 when the tank is empty. I usually start calling my 2 delivery folks when I hit 75 gallon mark or so and checking price. Currently I am down to 25 gallons and am waiting on the price to go down.

Chris
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #25  
Diamondpilot said:
1*Need to cut the fuel?
2*No, my delivery guy has brought as little as 80 gallons Chris
1*I don't see the need for that either/in fact it could be bad advice.
2*That makes me wonder where people are getting this 100 to 200 minimum gallon requirement idea?
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #26  
LBrown59 said:
2*That makes me wonder where people are getting this 100 to 200 minimum gallon requirement idea?
In other words, people who have called their local distributor and post they have a delivery minimum where they live are lying. Nice.:rolleyes:
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #27  
Typically, fuel delivery trucks have to meet all state and DOT regs, which means being a fairly modern truck. They don't run on air. It'll need the usual maintenance and upkeep on a truck of that size. (Tires, oil and filters, brakes, ect) Insurance on a vehicle involved in transporting a hazardous material isn't free either. The cost per mile on that sort of truck ISN'T the same as the family pick-em-up. Fuel delivered to your doorstep most likely will cost the seller as much (or more) to get it there as fuel delivered (then sold) at the local gas station.

Big oil companies are reporting record profits. Local vendors aren't. In many cases, local retailers and wholesale distributors are barely making a few cents per gallon. But let's say for the sake of arguement they can make a buck a gallon. (Which the don't come close to) Let's figure the truck takes one hour from leaving it's last stop 'till it's on the way to the next stop when it drops that 30 gallon delivery. And let's imagine they can hire a hazmat CDL licensed driver for $10 an hour. His insurance and employers portion of taxes just ate up half of what the "profit" was on the fuel. (based on that imaginary buck a gallon profit) $15 an hour to cover the owning and operating cost on a LEGAL fuel delivery truck? PLEASE.....?!?!?!

Unless the fuel supplier is just across the street, the wholesaler just GAVE you 30 gallons of fuel and he probably lost a few bucks over the long haul.

Figure this with REALISTIC profit per gallon and he just went broke over a 30 gallon sale.

I seriously doubt ANY fuel distributor can sell 30 gallons, deliver it to your address, and sell it at anything like "pump price". I was born at night, but it wasn't LAST NIGHT. Not happenin'.

Being right on the fringes of a major metro area, I have several wholesalers who deliver to larger customers like truck lines, construction companies, utility companies, ect. at my beck and call. They deal in large volume where they can operate on a close margin (per gallon). We also have 3 differet county Ag co-ops that deliver to farmers in varying quantities. NOT THE FIRST ONE will deliver LESS than 250 gallons for a penny less than a minimum that is based on 250 gallon. You can get 30 gallons delivered, but you'll PAY for 250.

The mowing business I own bought just a shade over 7800 gallons of #2 diesel over a 7 month time period. I don't have the sort of leverage it would take to get 30 gallons delivered at the same rate as 250, so why would someone who buys 30 or 40 gallons a YEAR expect anyone to believe any SANE fuel distributor would do that?

No one with so much as a lick of business sense needs customers so bad that they'll deliberately give away their product and deliver it at a loss. I ain't buyin' the idea of 30 gallon home delivery at the same price per gallon as higher volume bulk delivery. This isn't 1950.
 
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   / Kerosene in the tractor #28  
MikePA said:
Why do you find it so hard to understand the simple concept that things are different in different parts of the country?
1* Did it ever occur to you that people actually called a distributor where they live and this is what they were told?
In other words, they 'got this idea' from their local distributor.
1*Did it ever occur to you that some may have been misinformed or misunderstood what they were told?
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #29  
LBrown59 said:
1*Did it ever occur to you that some may have been misinformed or misunderstood what they were told?

That very thought occurs to me quite often as I read through this thread.
 
   / Kerosene in the tractor #30  
MikePA said:
In other words, people who have called their local distributor and post they have a delivery minimum where they live are lying. Nice.:rolleyes:
Nobody said anyone was lying.
However the information they are passing on may or may not be correct and or it may or may not contain all the details.
 

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