Tiller King Kutter 6' tiller
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
OK, at the risk of being premature, I can list the TEMPORARY address and format of the First Choice web site. Please keep in mind we were just trying to give folks a little glimpse of some products we offer. The site is in no way complete, I will add a few products every few days as time permits, and the format will totally change by the end of July. With all the disclaimers said I would appreciate feedback on both product line and things you TBN'ers would like in an equipment web site. Also, please note the link to Tractor By Net. OK, here it is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://home.midwest.net/~jimmc/index.html>http://home.midwest.net/~jimmc/index.html</A>
We will be moving to a dedicated server soon and the address will change, but we will provide a link at this address when that happens.
Thanks again for all your kind patience and input.
Jim McCuan
OK, at the risk of being premature, I can list the TEMPORARY address and format of the First Choice web site. Please keep in mind we were just trying to give folks a little glimpse of some products we offer. The site is in no way complete, I will add a few products every few days as time permits, and the format will totally change by the end of July. With all the disclaimers said I would appreciate feedback on both product line and things you TBN'ers would like in an equipment web site. Also, please note the link to Tractor By Net. OK, here it is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://home.midwest.net/~jimmc/index.html>http://home.midwest.net/~jimmc/index.html</A>
We will be moving to a dedicated server soon and the address will change, but we will provide a link at this address when that happens.
Thanks again for all your kind patience and input.
Jim McCuan
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
I have found a New 74 inch First Choice with clutch on sweettractors website in Ky for $1599----Hope this helps
I have found a New 74 inch First Choice with clutch on sweettractors website in Ky for $1599----Hope this helps
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
I've seen at least a couple times on other forums guys needing gears for the KK tiller. If you think the gear drive system is superior to a chain drive, you are way off base!!
I've done custom tilling for over 15 years now, and all with chain drive Howards. I've NEVER replaced a chain to this day, and i still have the over 15 year old Howard i started with, along with two newer models!!
I've used, and looked at many tillers over the years, and if you want a tiller that will take abuse, Howards the brand to choose. Just don't buy a model too light duty for your tractor!!
What kills a tiller is hitting rocks and junk that's in a field, and if you till enough you "WILL" hit plenty of trash!! I've hit motor blocks, starters, pipe, lumber, chains, windows, foundations, fence, and about every thing else you can think of all out in fields!!
I buy Howards because they can take the abuse of hitting trash, and keep on going. The guys looking for gears had hit large rocks and that's really hard on a tiller.
My brother bought a Bush Hog brand tiller because Howards were too expensive. He has no rocks at his small place. The first time he did a job for a neighbor and hit a big rock, he bent his tiller and locked it up. He learned the hard way that cheaper isn't always better.
There are many more advantages to a Howard rotavator too, but i won't get into them here. After what i have seen and expierenced, i won't buy any thing but a Howard rotavator!!
Get one with a slip clutch, and ajust it for your tractors HP.. If you want the toughest tiller, buy a Howard up front. In the long run, it will cost you less to own!
BTW, "green Howards" are called John Deere tillers when JD sells them!
Robert
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I've seen at least a couple times on other forums guys needing gears for the KK tiller. If you think the gear drive system is superior to a chain drive, you are way off base!!
I've done custom tilling for over 15 years now, and all with chain drive Howards. I've NEVER replaced a chain to this day, and i still have the over 15 year old Howard i started with, along with two newer models!!
I've used, and looked at many tillers over the years, and if you want a tiller that will take abuse, Howards the brand to choose. Just don't buy a model too light duty for your tractor!!
What kills a tiller is hitting rocks and junk that's in a field, and if you till enough you "WILL" hit plenty of trash!! I've hit motor blocks, starters, pipe, lumber, chains, windows, foundations, fence, and about every thing else you can think of all out in fields!!
I buy Howards because they can take the abuse of hitting trash, and keep on going. The guys looking for gears had hit large rocks and that's really hard on a tiller.
My brother bought a Bush Hog brand tiller because Howards were too expensive. He has no rocks at his small place. The first time he did a job for a neighbor and hit a big rock, he bent his tiller and locked it up. He learned the hard way that cheaper isn't always better.
There are many more advantages to a Howard rotavator too, but i won't get into them here. After what i have seen and expierenced, i won't buy any thing but a Howard rotavator!!
Get one with a slip clutch, and ajust it for your tractors HP.. If you want the toughest tiller, buy a Howard up front. In the long run, it will cost you less to own!
BTW, "green Howards" are called John Deere tillers when JD sells them!
Robert
http://www.fototime.com/{1E5498E8-8489-4895-A48A-D3CC6E12473D}/picture.JPG
Bird
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
<font color=blue>My brother bought a Bush Hog brand tiller . . . hit a big rock, he bent his tiller and locked it up</font color=blue>
Robert, you make me curious as to what model he had and exactly what damage was done to that Bush Hog. Now I've heard nothing but good things about the Howard, so I'm not disputing anything you say, but have you noticed that Bush Hog's light duty and medium duty tillers are chain drive while their heavy duty models are gear drive?
I used a light duty Bush Hog (RTS40) for over 6 years and it was used, abused, etc. tilling gardens, tilling up roots where trees had been removed by a dozer, accidentally tilled up a brick sidewalk that was covered by about an inch of dirt, hit steel stakes that were left in the garden by mistake, and was used to break up hardpan clay so it could be moved with the front end loader (that would really make it bounce up and down and sound terrible), and when I sold it, it still had never had any kind of repairs, breakdowns, or parts replaced (except for the chain cover gasket that I replaced one time as routine service when I cleaned and re-lubricated the chain drive).
I have a cousin who currently uses an RTS62 working in an area that was solid woods, and tilling up lots of roots from trees removed by a dozer. He's jammed one big root in it and bent the swinging door on the back once, but no other damage and nothing broke.
So . . ., the fact is that I don't know whether a gear drive or chain drive is best; I've certainly wondered about that, but either one seems to be very good.
<font color=blue>My brother bought a Bush Hog brand tiller . . . hit a big rock, he bent his tiller and locked it up</font color=blue>
Robert, you make me curious as to what model he had and exactly what damage was done to that Bush Hog. Now I've heard nothing but good things about the Howard, so I'm not disputing anything you say, but have you noticed that Bush Hog's light duty and medium duty tillers are chain drive while their heavy duty models are gear drive?
I used a light duty Bush Hog (RTS40) for over 6 years and it was used, abused, etc. tilling gardens, tilling up roots where trees had been removed by a dozer, accidentally tilled up a brick sidewalk that was covered by about an inch of dirt, hit steel stakes that were left in the garden by mistake, and was used to break up hardpan clay so it could be moved with the front end loader (that would really make it bounce up and down and sound terrible), and when I sold it, it still had never had any kind of repairs, breakdowns, or parts replaced (except for the chain cover gasket that I replaced one time as routine service when I cleaned and re-lubricated the chain drive).
I have a cousin who currently uses an RTS62 working in an area that was solid woods, and tilling up lots of roots from trees removed by a dozer. He's jammed one big root in it and bent the swinging door on the back once, but no other damage and nothing broke.
So . . ., the fact is that I don't know whether a gear drive or chain drive is best; I've certainly wondered about that, but either one seems to be very good.
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
I don't know the model of Bush Hog tiller my brother has, but i do know it's 5' wide, and he has a 30 HP tractor. He no longer lives close to me, so i don't see it very often.
I know that the rock bent several tines and a "tine flange." He used a torch and hammer to get it back into action.
I'll bet you i've hit "thousands" of big rocks over the years, and i've yet to bend up my Howards! (not even my small one) They are well worth the extra they cost.
I've bought the Howard in this picture in 1986, and i haven't put one dime into it in repairs to this date. I can't even guess how many gardens and small fields i've rotavated with this tiller!!
http://www.fototime.com/{6EB5A7B4-EB91-4869-8F28-A86FCE895ADE}/picture.JPG
I'm not going to get into what's BEST, "gears or chain drive" but i am going to tell you that a Howard rotavator with chain drive and some maintance doesn't take a back seat to any tiller, and easily out lives the cheapo brands!!
You don't have to do many gardens for your neighbors, to make up the difference a Howard will cost you over the lesser brands! You can pay a little more now, or pay a lot later. I made my choise from personal expierence, now it's your turn to decide.
Happy tilling,
Robert
I don't know the model of Bush Hog tiller my brother has, but i do know it's 5' wide, and he has a 30 HP tractor. He no longer lives close to me, so i don't see it very often.
I know that the rock bent several tines and a "tine flange." He used a torch and hammer to get it back into action.
I'll bet you i've hit "thousands" of big rocks over the years, and i've yet to bend up my Howards! (not even my small one) They are well worth the extra they cost.
I've bought the Howard in this picture in 1986, and i haven't put one dime into it in repairs to this date. I can't even guess how many gardens and small fields i've rotavated with this tiller!!
http://www.fototime.com/{6EB5A7B4-EB91-4869-8F28-A86FCE895ADE}/picture.JPG
I'm not going to get into what's BEST, "gears or chain drive" but i am going to tell you that a Howard rotavator with chain drive and some maintance doesn't take a back seat to any tiller, and easily out lives the cheapo brands!!
You don't have to do many gardens for your neighbors, to make up the difference a Howard will cost you over the lesser brands! You can pay a little more now, or pay a lot later. I made my choise from personal expierence, now it's your turn to decide.
Happy tilling,
Robert
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
<font color=blue>...i've yet to bend up my Howards! (not even my small one) They are well worth the extra they cost....</font color=blue>
I think those Howards are built like tanks... /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif
But, I didn't realize they were chain driven... I thought they were gear... extremely hefty units...
I don't know what is best either... but I think Howard makes the best tiller... from all reports... I've never ever heard anything negative about Howard...
<font color=blue>...i've yet to bend up my Howards! (not even my small one) They are well worth the extra they cost....</font color=blue>
I think those Howards are built like tanks... /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif
But, I didn't realize they were chain driven... I thought they were gear... extremely hefty units...
I don't know what is best either... but I think Howard makes the best tiller... from all reports... I've never ever heard anything negative about Howard...
Bird
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
Like I said, I've heard nothing but good things about the Howard. Maybe it's the best; I don't know. In fact, I don't think I've ever even seen one. I know that I couldn't have asked for anything better than the Bush Hog I had. But then I don't recall (doesn't mean they aren't here) any messages on the forum from anyone who was unhappy with any of the brands of tillers they have.
Like I said, I've heard nothing but good things about the Howard. Maybe it's the best; I don't know. In fact, I don't think I've ever even seen one. I know that I couldn't have asked for anything better than the Bush Hog I had. But then I don't recall (doesn't mean they aren't here) any messages on the forum from anyone who was unhappy with any of the brands of tillers they have.
CVHoss
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Re: King Kutter 6\' tiller
John,
I think you're both right about the chain/gear question. According to <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.howardrotavator.com/>Howard's web site</A>, they make both. Their models HR12,16,18,35,41,43,50,& 60 are gear drive and their models HR7,7HD,20,&30 are gear drive. I do take note that the really HD stuff, including the HR60 monster rated for tractors from 150hp to 250hp, are all gear drives.
Hoss
John,
I think you're both right about the chain/gear question. According to <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.howardrotavator.com/>Howard's web site</A>, they make both. Their models HR12,16,18,35,41,43,50,& 60 are gear drive and their models HR7,7HD,20,&30 are gear drive. I do take note that the really HD stuff, including the HR60 monster rated for tractors from 150hp to 250hp, are all gear drives.
Hoss
