Kioti CK20HST arrives! Pictures with her neighbor B7510

[dieselsmoke1]

Congratulations! Sure looks like a sweet piece! Enjoy!

 

[malk315]

Congrats., looks alot like mine . Your MMM looks very different than mine, it's a MM20-60. Is that a Kioti deck? I have a rear discharge with rear support wheels also. Rear discharge is so nice with no side chute to get in the way of mowing around stuff and it evenly disperses the clippings. I want to get the new cushy seat like yours. My feel every bump/hole seat is breaking my butt. Congrats enjoy

My Deck is a Kioti DMM60. If you look on the implements / mowers section of kiotitractor.com, the pictures of the side discharge deck are the one I have, although I don't see the part number DMM60 up top. I thought I remember someone saying they weren't making the side discharge anymore -- at any rate my dealer had one available.

I mowed with it the first time today -- the thing is an ANIMAL.... and cuts beautifully. I don't mind the side discharge because I use a leaf blower after cutting to quickly round up the clippings and send 'em into the woods.

I'm getting more comfortable w/ the machine now and had a couple questions and would like opinions from you guys who have experience:

- When going up a steep, long hill (on the road in my neighborhood), if I mash down the hydro in high, it bogs down. I found that gradually applying pedal until it just begins to bog and then backing off a hair yields the pedal 90% of the way down, close to full RPMs, and a nice quick forward speed (which is what I'm after when going home from Jeff's place). Is this the best way to approach hills in high range like that? i.e. it's not "bad" for the hydro or anything right? I would assume not since you can set the speed w/ the yellow lever next to the parking break (haven't tried it yet) w/ the hydro pedal wherever you want it.

Next question: If the pedal is mashed down and engine loses bunch of RPMs since it can't do what's being thrown at it, can it be damaging to engine or hydro tranny? i.e. is the power getting sent into the tranny as heat or anything and will possibly wreck it if it's done many times over a long time? I usually immediately let off if the engine bogs like that -- but just curious if doing that mashing and bogging the engine a lot can be bad -- that way more inexperience folks who try out the machine can be told to try not to do it!

One more: The mower deck height is set w/ pins on the wheels. I've found to avoid the wheels sinking into the edge of one of my landscaping beds (i.e. the caster front wheel goes of the edge and deck catches the ground) what I do is pull the hydraulic lift up until it's just about to start picking up the deck and hold it there -- that way if a wheel sinks into something, the hydraulics keep the deck up floating. Is running it like this at all bad for the hydraulics that lift 3 point and mid-mount attachments? I'm assuming not since you have a scale from 1 to 10 of infinite adjustment and the little locking screw thingy to remember an implement height -- at around #4 is where the deck and wheel contact to the ground are about equilibrium.

That's all for now -- I'll get some action shots together.
Next weekend I plan to mow and then try taking the deck off to get full ground clearance back and do some heavier loader work -- had 8 good size oak stumps ground out and need to remove the chips and fill the holes with loam to finish off the back.

I suppose since I'm an owner / operator now, I'll have to start my next thread in the owning/operating forum.

Thanks to all for the nice replies.

-Eric

 

[Bob_Skurka]

- When going up a steep, long hill (on the road in my neighborhood), if I mash down the hydro in high, it bogs down. I found that gradually applying pedal until it just begins to bog and then backing off a hair yields the pedal 90% of the way down, close to full RPMs, and a nice quick forward speed (which is what I'm after when going home from Jeff's place).

Power in terms of torque is inverse to pedal pressure on a HST so the farther you press on the HST pedal, the less torque you have to move the tractor up a hill. If you are having trouble climbing a hill you have 2 common options. Shift to the Low Range, or let up on the HST pedal. You achieve maximum practical torque for climbing with minimal pressure on the pedal.

Next question: If the pedal is mashed down and engine loses bunch of RPMs since it can't do what's being thrown at it, can it be damaging to engine or hydro tranny?

You are potentially doing damage to the engine, it is called bogging down the engine and not a good thing. It happens occasionally with any engine, but you don't want to sustain it. With HST it is best to run them at PTO speed when doing any medium to heavy task. Realize diesel engines are designed to run all day at that speed without damage and you should get several thousand hours out of a diesel engine. But don't let it bog down. If your engine bogs down frequently, then you simply don't have enough horsepower for the tasks that you do on a regular basis.

One more: The mower deck height is set w/ pins on the wheels. I've found to avoid the wheels sinking into the edge of one of my landscaping beds (i.e. the caster front wheel goes of the edge and deck catches the ground) what I do is pull the hydraulic lift up until it's just about to start picking up the deck and hold it there -- that way if a wheel sinks into something, the hydraulics keep the deck up floating. Is running it like this at all bad for the hydraulics that lift 3 point and mid-mount attachments? I'm assuming not since you have a scale from 1 to 10 of infinite adjustment and the little locking screw thingy to remember an implement height -- at around #4 is where the deck and wheel contact to the ground are about equilibrium.

No problem with that.