Kioti DK45s vs. JD 3720

[Jaybr]

This, of course, is endemic onlyto Kubota and JD dealers? The Kioti, Montana, etc. dealers would never want to sell you on the idea that their tractor is a quality product. The "quality crap" only comes from JD and Kubota...? Give the tractor dealer and manufacturer bashing a rest. They all do the same thing. Every dealer I've ever been to always wants you believe they have the best product and can cite numerous reasons that their product is the best.

You have to believe in the product you sell or you shouldn't be selling it. Why should Kubota, JD, or NH dealers be any different?

I guess I should have been more clear in my statement. I heard how great their products are, which I would expect. I also heard the Kioti bashing from the dealers. I'm talking about all the FUD tactics used by them.

I never heard JD, Kubota, or NH bash each other, but they seem to be eager to bash any of the others as having inferior quality, even create doubt about their long term viability.

 

[BTI]

Jaybr said
"I heard how great their products are, which I would expect. I also heard the Kioti bashing from the dealers.
I'm talking about all the FUD tactics used by them.

I never heard JD, Kubota, or NH bash each other, but they seem to be eager to bash any of the others as having inferior quality,
even create doubt about their long term viability."

That is the way it is around here. They talk about inferiority etc etc.
My fave was the guy that said the local dealer told him how much better their
Cub Cadet 8454 was than our 45 HP tractor.....the 8454 is/was a Kioti built unit.

BTI

 

[Keith_B]

I'd go with the DK45s. You are getting more tractor for less money.

 

[Patches]

I'd go with the DK45s. You are getting more tractor for less money.

As a recent kioti purchaser,all-be-it, not the dk(3054xs)if your major concern is not initial price I would strongly advise you to go with a major manufacturer.I've experienced more than what I would consider my fair share of problems,some of which have been addressed by my dealer and some that remain outstanding.The unit is now out of warranty and I can't sell it for a reasonable price(considering original cost),and I can't trade it for a major brand,although I've been offered a consignment sale.There is more to consider than the original cost,and I mean this as no reflection on the dealer as I believe he's done his utmost to satisfy me:it's the product that is lacking

 

[DK35vince]

I have a 2001 Kioti DK 35 with around 1000 hours on it now (purchased it new).
Tractor has never been back to the dealer for any repair or warranty.
The only parts I have replaced is 1 tachometer cable ($8) and a plastic fuel filter bowl ($9).
Since everything has had a chance to break in the tractor works better/smoother now than it did when it when it was new.
I have owned a JD 850 for many years, so far my Kioti has been just as well built, solid and reliable as my JD.

 

[Keith_B]

As a recent kioti purchaser,all-be-it, not the dk(3054xs)if your major concern is not initial price I would strongly advise you to go with a major manufacturer.I've experienced more than what I would consider my fair share of problems,some of which have been addressed by my dealer and some that remain outstanding.The unit is now out of warranty and I can't sell it for a reasonable price(considering original cost),and I can't trade it for a major brand,although I've been offered a consignment sale.There is more to consider than the original cost,and I mean this as no reflection on the dealer as I believe he's done his utmost to satisfy me:it's the product that is lacking

I know of guys that lost thousands when getting a hold of a major brand that were lemons. I've seen guys have major problems when dealing with major dealers, then had tech reps who would do nothing to help them, although they would stall until the product was out of warranty.

I've yet to see one person say they were glad they bought a name brand lemon.

 

[Z-Michigan]

I know of guys that lost thousands when getting a hold of a major brand that were lemons. I've seen guys have major problems when dealing with major dealers, then had tech reps who would do nothing to help them, although they would stall until the product was out of warranty.

I've yet to see one person say they were glad they bought a name brand lemon.

I'm sorry to hear about Patches' problems, but IMHO the quality of the dealer is one of the most important factors. If the dealer is good - and Wallace has a good reputation - I think that makes a huge difference. If the dealer is bad, I don't care if you're buying JD or Kubota or Mercedes, you won't enjoy your ownership experience. I also think Kioti's current 4 year warranty is a big plus.

 

[Eagle54]

Nothing runs like a deer when a Kioti is chasing it.



Both are great machines.

 

[Dargo]

My personal opinion (that's what we all are offering anyway, right?) after comparing them a couple of years ago is that their build quality is not comparable. I rather strongly believe that the JD is a higher quality machine, but it does cost more as well. The question then would be how much more would you be willing to spend for a better built tractor? This would then take the decision down to the question of "is the Kioti good enough?" Which, in turn would require the answer to the question "good enough for what?" For most cases, I think that Kioti and Mahindra are built considerably better than many other brands I actually took the time to look at in person, drive, and really check out.

In my situation another item came into play. I used to have 4 Kioti dealerships in my area. Now I have one and they don't really have a repair shop and honestly are not that close. I have JD dealers all over the place and I can easily get parts and service. Also, my JD dealer picks up and delivers my tractor for me even when just doing small things, like scheduled maintenance. Another factor is that when I really use my tractor really hard, I am about 20 miles from where my house is on some remote property I purchased. That is not the time to find a problem. And, if I do, the JD dealer has the resources and ability to come get my tractor if the need was there. The only Kioti dealer in my area definitely could not do such a thing.

I assume that in some areas you will have local Kioti dealers, and dealers that actually have a shop. That would eliminate a portion of what played into my decision and what seems to be common. Then it would be a matter of how much better you liked the JD and how much superior, dollar wise, you valued the difference. Again, in my situation, it was a no-brainer for me when the Kioti was priced very close to what the JD and Kubota that were priced. I understand that is regional as well. Since I have several local JD dealers and Kubota dealers, they discount deeply. The lone little Kioti dealer is looking for full list on the few units he sells.

 

[Steve_Miller]

Even if the Kioti turns out to be a piece of junk (which it isn't, I'm on my second one now) you will not regret buying from Wallace, he will treat you right, no if's ,and's or but's. I would think along the same lines as you when it comes to purchasing. Wallace has been nothing but excellent on this forum from everything I've seen and read. Any Deere's I have known have been nothing but reliable, same for the Kubota I owned for 18 years. I'd have no regrets about buying the Kioti now that I've owned them for years. Someone has to believe in new products or nothing would ever change in this world. I guess I have enough confidence in myself to assess a new product enough to justify buying it. If you don't then get the old tried tested and true. In closing, you won't get a better dealer than Wallace in my opinion whether he sold Kioti, Deere or Kubota.

Steve