Kioti Injection Pump Failure Warning
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Alien
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I tremble in fear now.... I have just over 400 hrs on my CK30 and wonder if I should sell it while it is still going. I can't afford large bills. I wasn't on a pension when I bought it. It is now 6 years old.
dennis52
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Don't tremble, you'll drop that fine tractor you're holding.
MotorSeven
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I'd also like to see the IP failure rate on all the other colors...I'd bet they are similar. Anyway, once you out of warranty, a day , a month or 10 years I don't think any mfg is liable. What has happened in some cases mfg's appease someone that is just out of warranty. That's great for them, but it causes others to feel they too should get their out of warranty issue fixed. Yes, if there is a known issue with a particular IP, then Kioti extend should the warranty.
I just don't know how extensive this particular failure is that Ritchey is tracking. I understand him wanting the buyers to be aware, but dang this is turning into a wild fire on a windy day.
I'm at 900 hrs and I'm an '08. If my pump craters I'm just going to have to cough up the cash and fix it. I'm out of warranty(since June) and would expect nothing from Kioti........ and I'm ok with that.
I just don't know how extensive this particular failure is that Ritchey is tracking. I understand him wanting the buyers to be aware, but dang this is turning into a wild fire on a windy day.
I'm at 900 hrs and I'm an '08. If my pump craters I'm just going to have to cough up the cash and fix it. I'm out of warranty(since June) and would expect nothing from Kioti........ and I'm ok with that.
DK35vince
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Pump failures are usually pretty rare
Other colors do not have pump failures anywhere even close to what we are seeing on the 2006-2008 model Kioti's.
Kioti knows there was a problem with these pumps and thats why they should be standing behind them, even after the warranty is up IMO
Patches
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Friend of mine shut his 2305 JD off and it wouldn't start again. Long story short; John Deere repaired(had pump rebuilt by independent pump service co.) at no cost to owner for the repair, or labor involved in the removal/installation, even though he was 6 mths. out of warranty, although the tractor only had 300 hrs. on the clock. Stuff happens
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ritcheyvs
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THIS IS NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL.
I first took Alien's comment as sarcasm but maybe it is serious. Hey, if you like your tractor and still need/want a tractor, keep it by all means. This is a rare (only 1-2% of a few model years) failure and it's expensive only because we don't know how to get these IPs rebuilt, which should only cost a few hundred bucks. This Zexel PFR IP design is used on most CUTs in this HP range so it's unlikely this is a Kioti-only problem. Also Kioti replacement IPs cost considerably less than the same part through Mahindra or Kubota supply channels. For a potential buyer, I would think knowledge of the reliability and service history of candidate models would only be a good thing and several other posters helped cast this particular issue in proper perspective.
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I have a question for you folks with pump failures,were you running some type of diesel fuel additive?coobie
MessickFarmEqu
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This is a valid question... and maybe something that should be added to that spread sheet you guys are working on. 99% of the time we see an injection pump problem its because there was dirt \ water \ mulch \ {insert contaminate here} in the fuel.
williekioti
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I had the IP failure a few years back. '06 CK30. Yes, PS treatment is EVERY gallon of fuel since taking delivery, seasonally adjusted. Don't recall if I'm on the list or not, I think I replied a while back regarding this issue multiple times. THE issue as reported to me is substandard parts/assembly of a limited production run of certain IPs.......basically some crappy plastic gears on the metering arm. When it occured for me, the tractor's engine raced to the moon, had to kill it with the manual fuel cutoff. Then she wouldn't start again.
Mine occured somewhere between 125-150 hrs IRC, was stihl under warranty, repaired under warranty and was advised by my long time, original dealer that it was a known, but small production run issue with a 3rd party supplier. I was treated fine and overall satisfied with the response. My only gripe was being gouged on pick up/delivery by the new, non-selling dealership that completed the repair (now no longer in the tractor business BTW).....moving sucks sometimes. I know my selling dealer would have treated me better.
Tracking this issue is fine, but I sure wouldn't claim the sky is falling. If my tractor was 6+ yrs/1000+ hrs old I'd expect to be funding the repairs for the duration. Would I try to get something covered if valid research seemed to indicate a OEM known issue? Sure, but it wouldn't influence my quality of life in the meantime. (these last statements just my humble observations, not directed at anyone in particular). And I concur 100% about Dealer choice, much more important than the color of the machine....also IMHO...