Kioti Newby observations and questions...

[cphilip]

Need a normal check here I guess. Had this thing a week. Got the crash course on these turnbuckle stabilizers so thats now up to speed.

But three things I notice that I need to get input on. I've put about 6 hours on it. It shows 10.2 hours total.

1) White smoke on initial start up. Gone in 5 seconds. I know some condensation in the exhaust is normal. Its been cool and wet in the mornings. Warm and dry in evenings. But for a second I wonder if I've elected a new pope.

2) How long can I forget to kick the brake lock off without damage? I mean that thing has caught me now like three times forgetting about it being on. I got to either not use that feature or learn to hit that brake as a habit.

3) How fast does ya'lls (yes thats a southern phrase meaning you all) fuel gauge take to finally get up to its correct level. Mine takes sometimes three or five minutes until it finally creeps up to full or whatever it really is. Just noticed that today after filling it for first time.

Thanks in advance.

 

[gunmonkeyintl]

Comments on #s 2 and 3.

#2- we’ve all done it. It’s got to be hard on the brake, but I also know I’ve done it at least a half dozen times in the last 4 years, and I don’t appear to have damaged anything.

Get in the habit of taking your parking brake off when you’re ready to go, rather than getting in the habit of not using it. The parking brake is important. If you hop off the tractor on even a slight incline, you need the muscle memory to put it on, or you’re going to end up chasing a run away tractor and potentially getting run over by it. Don’t be that guy. He’s dead.

#3- a STUPID long time. I learned the hard way to look at my gauge, do the math in my head, and add a little less fuel than it will take. If you’re filling by watching the gauge, you’ll overfill. And, if you’re filling by watching the gauge, while you’re letting it warm up, you’ll never even hear that overflowing diesel pouring out onto your shop floor.

My DK40 has an 11-12 galling tank. If the gauge says it’s at 1/2, before I start filling, I’ll put a full 5 gallon can in it, and probably stop there. If it says it’s at 1/4, before I start filling, I’ll put a 5 gallon can in, and maybe a half of another. Once I’ve started fueling, I don’t bother to look at the gauge, as it’s useless until it’s had 5-10 minutes to adjust.

 

[k0ua]

I can confirm #3. yes a "stupid long time" as the gauge is dampened. I fill and look into the hole to see the level of the fuel, and also listen. I have only done the park brake a time or two on the Kioti, as mine has a big red light that tells you parking brake is on. So as soon as I glance at the dash I will realize it is on. On my previous Kubota, no light, so yes, I did it more. It didn't seem to hurt it near as I could tell, but it cant be a good thing. I dunno about your startup smoke. Mine doesn't smoke much at all at startup. A little in the cold wintertime for a short time. Of course "a little" and "a lot" are subjective terms. But no pope announcement for sure.

 

[cphilip]

I noticed it after I had filled up and the local station down the road. I drove it up there so I filled by nozzle and sight. So I knew it was full. Then proceeded home and had a sandwich before starting back out again. Thats when noticed the gauge said 1/2 full. I thought for a minute I had a fuel leak. Doubled back to where I parked and got off and didn't smell any diesel or see any wet spots so I took the fuel cap off and it was visually verified full. So I started off again and noticed eventually it got back up to full.

I think the smoke is just normal conditions because it does clear almost immediately but Ill keep an eye on fluids and throw that question at the dealer on Monday. It has no odor. It is pure white like steam. Its running really well.

 

[DieselBound]

Smoke on start-up is due to low combustion cylinder temps. My NX seems to run the glow plugs quite a bit, in which case there's next to no smoke (or goes away nearly instantly). My cars (VW TDIs) smoke quite a bit: they tend to struggle more when right on the cusp of glow plug operating temps- when it's warmer or colder it's less an issue.

I think that I've probably started off with the brakes set on my B7800 more times than not! They're basically worthless now: can't recall how they were when I got it [it was used]. Low concern because my land is pretty flat: mostly just set the brake out of habit (with the NX you HAVE to set it in order to start).

 

[marchanna]

1. White smoke on startup is normal. Don’t worry about. Other times when you’re maxing out the hp, for example, when you’re mowing a field and you run into a deep some waste deep grass, you’ll see it spew a little black smoke. That’s normal also, but it’s an indication you should slow down a little.

2. You should really try to avoid leaving the brake on. There’s no telling how soon you could do damage. Ie, if you mow all afternoon on a hot day, that could be enough, but for a couple minutes every tenth time you use it probably only going to cause a little premature wear.

3. I don’t bother watching the fuel gage when filling, I look straight down into the tank. Usually, by the time I’m done filling and putting the fuel cans away, the fuel gage has caught up.

 

[cphilip]

I had become sort of used to dropping the FEL and whatever implement I had on as brakes. I just got to develop a habit I suppose. Go through a mental check list so to speak. Key on, start, hit brake pedal... proceed. Something like that. Glad Im not alone.

 

[Mike Gibson]

I used to have the same problem with the parking brake now and then. My solution was to put the brake on tight enough it becomes apparent the brake is on when you try and move the tractor.

 

[Threepoint]

Late to this thread, but FWIW the fuel gauge on my 2014 NX4510HST Cab responds immediately when the ignition is switched to accessory. I just double-checked this afternoon after filling the fuel tank from near empty. Switched the ignition and the needle jumped to full.

 

[Threepoint]

Also, regarding the brake lock, my NX won't budge, even in low range, if I forget to release the parking brake. That's assuming the brake is fully on.