Comparison Kioti NX5010 vs Kubota L4701

[OutBurst]

I think I am at a crossroads with what I am looking to purchase.

I believe I have it down to either a Kubota L4701 w/ LA765 and BH92 or a Kioti NX5010 HST w/ KL6010 and KB2485. Both HST.

Frankly, it appears the Kioti is much more 'bang for the buck' as many would say. It is heavier, has more standard features such as mid-pto, push-button PTO, etc. However, I cannot get a hydraulic thumb on the Kioti backhoe as I can with the Kubota. I cannot get a mid-pto on the Kubota (I would like the ability to attach a front-mount snowblower in the future, however, I have a 48" 2-stage snowblower on my Ariens GT20 so it isn't that big of a deal.

The Kubota and Kioti have about the same FEL lifting capacity. The Kubota backhoe can reach farther, dig deeper and lift more.

I prefer to keep the backhoes OEM because of the poor finish I have seen on Wallenstein and Woods backhoes (seriously faded after only a few years).

Let's talk about dealers: I have many Kubota dealers in my area - only a couple Kioti dealers (one within 8 miles and is the oldest Kioti dealer in the country while the other is about 30 miles away). I get the same feeling from both dealers - both good. The Kioti dealer is family-run while the Kubota dealers are not.

Let's talk about price: I have been quoted $35,224 for the Kioti and $35,000 for the Kubota.

Thoughts?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I think I am at a crossroads with what I am looking to purchase.

I believe I have it down to either a Kubota L4701 w/ LA765 and BH92 or a Kioti NX5010 HST w/ KL6010 and KB2485. Both HST.

Frankly, it appears the Kioti is much more 'bang for the buck' as many would say. It is heavier, has more standard features such as mid-pto, push-button PTO, etc. However, I cannot get a hydraulic thumb on the Kioti backhoe as I can with the Kubota. I cannot get a mid-pto on the Kubota (I would like the ability to attach a front-mount snowblower in the future, however, I have a 48" 2-stage snowblower on my Ariens GT20 so it isn't that big of a deal.

The Kubota and Kioti have about the same FEL lifting capacity. The Kubota backhoe can reach farther, dig deeper and lift more.

I prefer to keep the backhoes OEM because of the poor finish I have seen on Wallenstein and Woods backhoes (seriously faded after only a few years).

Let's talk about dealers: I have many Kubota dealers in my area - only a couple Kioti dealers (one within 8 miles and is the oldest Kioti dealer in the country while the other is about 30 miles away). I get the same feeling from both dealers - both good. The Kioti dealer is family-run while the Kubota dealers are not.

Let's talk about price: I have been quoted $35,224 for the Kioti and $35,000 for the Kubota.

Thoughts?

Here's a hydraulic thumb for the Kioti.

 

[s219]

Frankly, it appears the Kioti is much more 'bang for the buck' as many would say.

That's generally how it goes! And keep in mind the L4701 is a basic L model while the NX is more deluxe. In reality, I think the comparable Kubota model would be a Grand L. And that's when you'll see the Kubota costs much more.

 

[TSO]

The Kubota and Kioti have about the same FEL lifting capacity. The Kubota backhoe can reach farther, dig deeper and lift more.

I believe that is incorrect... The loaders will be quite a bit different, in favor of the Kioti.

That Kioti is a much better choice between those two tractors. But, that is because the Kioti you are using is a "deluxe" model. To more accurately compare, you need to put the L4760 & L6060 against the Kioti's.

 

[k0ua]

I believe that is incorrect... The loaders will be quite a bit different, in favor of the Kioti.

That Kioti is a much better choice between those two tractors. But, that is because the Kioti you are using is a "deluxe" model. To more accurately compare, you need to put the L4760 & L6060 against the Kioti's.

Kubota La765...1684 lbs at the pin
Kioti KL6010. 2761 lbs at the pin That is just 1077 lbs.. more.. just a little over 1/2 a ton

Kubota La765 lift height at the pin 105.2 inches
Kioti KL6010 lift height at the pin 108.3 inches about the same... 3.1 inches.

Standard tractor, no deluxe features... vs Deluxe tractor with many features... hmmm...

 

[OutBurst]

Kubota La765...1684 lbs at the pin
Kioti KL6010. 2761 lbs at the pin That is just 1077 lbs.. more.. just a little over 1/2 a ton

Kubota La765 lift height at the pin 105.2 inches
Kioti KL6010 lift height at the pin 108.3 inches about the same... 3.1 inches.

Standard tractor, no deluxe features... vs Deluxe tractor with many features... hmmm...

Hmm, I didn't realize the differences were that great! Sounds like this is an easy decision for me!

 

[GManBart]

Hmm, I didn't realize the differences were that great! Sounds like this is an easy decision for me!

That 1,000lbs is actually greater, due to the higher max lift height on the Kioti. Effectively, it's probably 1,200lbs difference.

Throw in that the 3pt on the Kioti will lift 3,177lbs at 24" versus 2,320lbs.

Then look at pump flow....the Kioti has 17.9gpm (total combined between implement and steering) versus 12.5gpm and you can expect faster cycle times with the Kioti.

The Kioti also has things like the throttle linked pedal for the HST, stall protection, turn assist, actual groundspeed cruise control (versus a power setting cruise control), the rear 3pt lift control lever, etc, etc.

The cherry on the top is the extra 1hp at the PTO for the Kioti.

One thing to note is that if you go to the NX5510 you get the next size larger tires, and they look cooler

 

[grm61]

Yea, the kioti lifts almost twice as much, but its close lol :laughing:

 

[k0ua]

Telescoping stabilizers, and 3pt lift links. Makes hookup so much easier on the Kioti, combined with the handy 3pt control. A much more ergonomic FEL joystick control built in to the tractor chassis itself. Tilt steering wheel. etc etc etc... apples and oranges.... Not that you can't get all of these things (except the exclusive rear 3pt control) on a Grand L Kubota, but you need to price out one of those.

 

[NC419N]

And my BIL wondered why I bought a Kioti. If you do the research it is the best value in Orange that I have found.

 

[OutBurst]

I found a decent deal on a DK40SE HST with loader and backhoe - going to check it out. If it is in decent shape, that just might take the cake. Not as much power as the NX5010 but it is half the price. Sometimes money talks!

 

[kco]

If it is similar to when I was comparing the DK to the Lnn00 series the Kubota units do not come with standard quick attach on the loader. Perhaps that has changed now.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I found a decent deal on a DK40SE HST with loader and backhoe - going to check it out. If it is in decent shape, that just might take the cake. Not as much power as the NX5010 but it is half the price. Sometimes money talks!

The DK40SE will have all the goodies on it like the extendable lower lift arms, the 3 point hitch adjustment lever in the back, cruise control, 1 set of rear hydraulic remotes standard, etc. It's a really good tractor if it meets your needs.

 

[grm61]

The DK40SE will have all the goodies on it like the extendable lower lift arms, the 3 point hitch adjustment lever in the back, cruise control, 1 set of rear hydraulic remotes standard, etc. It's a really good tractor if it meets your needs.

Ditto, these are good tractors without all of the tier 4 BS, don't buy a wreck buy a like new one:thumbsup:

 

[k0ua]

If it is similar to when I was comparing the DK to the Lnn00 series the Kubota units do not come with standard quick attach on the loader. Perhaps that has changed now.

Nope, not changed...SSQA would be standard on a DK series, but extra on an L series

 

[art]

Nope, not changed...SSQA would be standard on a DK series, but extra on an L series

Must be your kioti price book comparison for Kubota is different then what Kubota prints. Quick attach bucket is standard on a 765 loader.

Accurate facts are all that should be posted here.

 

[k0ua]

Must be your kioti price book comparison for Kubota is different then what Kubota prints. Quick attach bucket is standard on a 765 loader.

Accurate facts are all that should be posted here.

By golly you are right, it is on the 765, not the 525 though. Sorry..

 

[TJP89]

This thread is the most ruthless demolition of the basic L series versus Kioti I have ever seen. All absolutely correct. The L can't stand up to the Kioti CK, DK, or NX series, which it equals in price. That's the reason I have a Kioti. To equal Kioti, you need the GL, which a lot more money.

To the OP, the DK40 is a great tractor, but something concerns me here. You started with a 50HP tractor, and now are looking at a 40HP tractor. Money talks, but if you need that 10HP, you will likely regret it later. If you don't need that 10HP, why did you start at 50?

Also, I think you said the tractors were at 33K. If that's an open station, it's high by several thousand for the going price. Closer to 30 is more like it.

 

[DieselnHooters]

Let's talk about price: I have been quoted $35,224 for the Kioti and $35,000 for the Kubota.

Thoughts?

Go for the Kub, think of all the implements you could get with the $224

 

[TSO]

Go for the Kub, think of all the implements you could get with the $224

LOL funny