Price Check Kioti Pricing

jrock · May 19, 2004

Members, Im in the market for a new tractor in the 30hp
range. Ive never owned,not loyal to any brand. Why am i having trouble locating prices of Kioti. Does someone have
a website with more info? From what ive read,Kioti is a legit
contender and im very interested. Its hard to research without
the Oh so important $ figure.
Thanks for any help!
John

shoppintractors · May 19, 2004

Since last October Kioti does not allow their dealers to post prices on their websites. You'll have to contact the dealers individually for prices....

Don

jrock · May 19, 2004

Don, Thanks for responding. I just dont understand why Kioti
(In the Internet age) would plan a marketing move like that?
Im just looking for some Ballpark figures. Im trying to price
all models. Im looking for a "Most bang for the buck tractor"
and have talked with 2 dealers on the phone (another brand)
would like to avoid alll the phone calls x used car salesman
issues. All i have read here is very positive. Kioti has my intrest in High Alert!
Thanks again.
John

shoppintractors · May 19, 2004

What model are your interested in? You can email dealers and request information. Search the previous posts in the Kioti forum. Many purchasers have posted prices they paid.

If you fill in your profile with your location you may get a Kioti Dealer contact you via private mail.

Don

Skyhawk · May 19, 2004

I think that protected pricing is a BIG mistake. I'm also in the market for a 25-30hp compact, and would look at Kioti IF I had a general idea what they were selling for. When I called my "local" dealer, he told me what the list price was, but said I had to stop in to get his "sale" price. It irritated me enough that I dismissed Kioti from my list...

DK35vince · May 19, 2004

( I think that protected pricing is a BIG mistake. I'm also in the market for a 25-30hp compact, and would look at Kioti IF I had a general idea what they were selling for. When I called my "local" dealer, he told me what the list price was, but said I had to stop in to get his "sale" price. It irritated me enough that I dismissed Kioti from my list... )

I think you will find that Kubota has the same policy about dealers posting prices on their websites.
Not sure about other mfg.'s

shoppintractors · May 19, 2004

Kioti is not the only brand that has done this. It certainly was convenient when the dealers posted their prices. I'm sure it has increased the work load on the dealers handling the inquiries. What specific model are you interested in?

Don

LarryRB · May 19, 2004

I whole heartedly agree that refusing pricing is a huge mistake. What is going on now, (although it really hasn't changed w/dealers in my neighborhood), the delaers are quoting (lists) pricing that is way over average listed prices nationwide. For instance, one can assume a 4630 Kubota basic tractor between 21 and 25 thousand. GO to the dealer here, it's 28500 today and 29600 tomorrow, and if you bought from him in hte past and it's a Saturday, the price is a snappy 26000 even.. plus FEL, cab and whatever else you want. I can see some problems with dealers that post rock bottom or in some cases, below cost pricing (switch and bait).. I think all mfg should at least post a list price for every machine they make and make that price internet wide across the nation.. At least the gouging would be forced to stop..

Rollerskate · May 19, 2004

I wouldn't dismiss Kioti, but I would dismiss that dealer. I am lucky to be in an area where getting to dealers is not such a problem. I would rather do the face to face thing anyway. There is a good sized JD/NH dealer near me. Went to see him and whoever it was I talked to was either brain dead or thought I was. After a couple of questions, I basically said thanks but no thanks and left the place. I have 3 Kioti dealers I have visited and all were very helpful in different ways. Because I visited them they all told me the list price and then jumped right to the "this is what it will cost you" price. I have found that the CK30 is looking like it could be up to $2K more than the LK3054XS.

jrock · May 19, 2004

Members, Thanks for responses. Im not excluding any make,
model yet. To be honest, ive only looked at Kubota and Kioti.
I have seen dealer pricing for Kubota's on the internet. If a
product is competitive, what is the issue? In my mind, it makes me concerned. From the phone calls i have made, the prices on the internet can vary greatly. If your proud
of your product, dont hide the fine print from the consumer.
Just my feelings.
Thanks everyone.
John

shoppintractors · May 19, 2004

I have seen dealer pricing for Kubota's on the internet. 

I have to. I believe you will find it is "Kubota's" policy for dealers not to advertise prices.

From the phone calls i have made, the prices on the internet can vary greatly. 

Prices vary from dealer to dealer and region to region. You will find that in every brand.

Don

DK35vince · May 19, 2004

I'm not trying to give the impression that I like the new "no posting prices policy" because I don't.
Like Larry stated earlier, it leaves the door open to dealer price gouging.
My opinion.

shoppintractors · May 19, 2004

Kioti has built a reputation for building quality products at more affordable prices.
If certain Kioti dealers are trying to price gouge it hurts Kioti as a whole.

Price gouging seems to be inherent in all brands, but not inherent at all dealers. "The dealer makes the difference." How many times has that been said? The Kioti Forum is very fortunate to have Kioti Dealers that participate and help out here in the forum.

Don

RedDog · May 20, 2004

( I think that protected pricing is a BIG mistake. I'm also in the market for a 25-30hp compact, and would look at Kioti IF I had a general idea what they were selling for. When I called my "local" dealer, he told me what the list price was, but said I had to stop in to get his "sale" price. It irritated me enough that I dismissed Kioti from my list... )

Gary,

I agree!!! I think it is a big mistake! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

RedDog

Kiohio · May 20, 2004

We will price any tractor over the phone at what we sell it for. But first we let the customer know if there is a dealer in their area or help them find one. It's the bait & Switch and super low-ball pricing etc, that has caused Kioti and others to adopt an "internet sales policy". I have talked to dealers of all brands about this and it is a problem regardless of brand. I believe corporate websites should post "list" prices. It is nice to know a "ballpark" price on a piece of equipment.

KO

LarryRB · May 20, 2004

That was the whole point of my statement above. If X brand machine at X size lists for 26000, then it should be 26 regardless who I call. After that it is up to me and that dealer to better from the lists price. Some in our neighborhood and they are usually the big three go first, will tell you the list of X at size X is 31500 or some ridiculous price.. Even though through research it can be assumed Kioti or whoever REALLY posted 26000.. And all of them have that "if you don't like it, go elsewhere attitude, you can't do better"" Then, someone does TEN thousand or cheaper as a better price and the dealer still whines and cries. For those types, I personally feel they ought to hurt and hurt real bad because what they are doing they're doing to themselves in the short run and the tractor manufacturer in the long one.

SteveH_CT · May 20, 2004

Well said - most any tractor will be a great tool - dealers are what make it a good experience (or bad) from buying to servicing the tractor.

sweettractors · May 20, 2004

John--We are a Kioti Dealer and If we can be of any help? Just call 270-524-0385-Mon-Fri-8-5-CST--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *New 4-5-6-7 Ft First Choice Finish Mowers in Stock in Orange*

depratt_equip · May 20, 2004

Where you located at? Im sure there is a dealer close to you who would be glad to help you with pricing.

jrock · May 20, 2004

Im located in Central Florida, "Cocoa". Sorry have not filled out the profile. I dont like the internet pricing policy, but do understand the problems related to that much better now!
Thanks everyone for all the input. I just need to find the
right Tractor to fit my needs. I plan on buying within the next
30 days.
Thanks again.
John