Kioti vs Kubota

[tjkadar]

PTO HP
DK65S 52.1 hp
M6800 62 hp

Engine Gross
DK65S 64 hp
M6800 70.9 hp

Rated RPM
DK65S 2200
M6800 2600

Displacement
DK65S 201.4 (turbocharged)
M6800 202

Clutch
DK65S Dry single plate
M6800 Hydraulic Shuttle/Multiple Wet Disc

Transmission
DK65S 12F/12R (main gear synchronized)
M6800 8F/8R Fully synchronized

Diff Lock
DK65S Front & Rear
M6800 Front & Rear

Final Drive
DK65S Didn't find info
M6800 Inboard Planetary

Brake
DK65S Hydraulic wet disc
M6800 Mechanically operated, multi plate wet disc

PTO Type
DK65S Rear independent (540 rpm & 1000 rpm)
M6800 Live-hydraulic independent

Hydraulic Type
DK65S Didn't find info
M6800 Open

Hydraulic Pump
DK65S Didn't find info, but I believe it is a gear driven pump
M6800 Gear pumps

Total Pump Output
DK65S 19.17 gpm (10.88 main pump; 8.37 steering pump)
M6800 17.1 gpm (11.0 main pump; 6.1 steering pump)

Hydraulic Outlets
DK65S Two (3rd optional)
M6800 One (2nd & 3rd optional)

3-point Hitch
DK65S Cat II (Cat I optional)
M6800 Cat I & II (looks to be the same as the Kioti)

Hydraulic Controls
DK65S Position, Draft, Mix control
M6800 Position, Draft, Mix control

Lift Capacity at Lift Point
DK65S Didn't find info
M6800 4550 lbs

24" Behind LP
DK65S Didn't find info (at least not specifically stated as)
M6800 3310 lbs

24" Aft of Hitch
DK65S 4850 lbs (not exactly sure where this measurement takes place - may or may not be the same as 24" behind LP)
M6800 Didn't find this info

Steering
DK65S Hydraulic
M6800 Hydrostatic

Fuel Tank
DK65S 26.5 gal.
M6800 25.1 gal

Cooling System
DK65S Didn't find info
M6800 9 qts

Engine Oil
DK65S Didn't find info
M6800 11.3 qts

Weight with Cab (MFWD)
DK65S 6925 lbs (cab model with standard ag tires)
M6800 6175 lbs (cab model with standard ag tires)

Ground Clearance (Front Axle)
DK65S 16.7 in
M6800 18.1 in

Raw specs can give you an idea of a tractor's performance, but it doesn't tell you how a tractor fits you. You really need to see both beasts up close and personal. Without kicking the tires, grabbing a hold of a steering wheel, and messing with a vehicle's controls you really can't get a feel for the machine.

If a person chooses a Kioti over a Kubota or vice versa and is happy with the tractor, why worry about buyer's remorse? Be happy you now have a YOUR tractor (or get to drive the bank's tractor for a few years before it really becomes YOURs)!

I admit, I have my preference based on my experiences and my needs. Those two things are not the same for everyone and so everyone doesn't need to buy the same exact make and model tractor as mine.

If you are happy with your 2002 DK65S and it has done everything you've asked of it, then why worry about a M6800? It is a moot point. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Don't worry, be happy!

 

[wvmapler]

I apologize for any offense to anyone on either side. I did state that is what I was told and it made very little sense to me. I will say in defense of my dealer, that when comparable apples to oranges among tractors, he would not say anything bad or least bit negative about any other tractor brand and just pointed out positives about Kubota.

Either way, I knew if I posted it I could find out the truth /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I think either tractors are great tractors and you couldn't go wrong with either one /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[5030]

There ain't no right and there ain't no wrong.......there's just the payment book. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[ronjhall]

You are right about the payment book.
In another thread a member may have a broken tractor. <font color="orange"> Kioti</font> does have a drive train warranty in the third year like <font color="orange"> Kubota </font>. But it only covers PARTS. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[JerryG]

<font color="blue">Read the Kioti letter in your post. Wonder about the confidentiality part though. The letter is short and politically correct so it leaves a lot to conjecture. </font>
We hardly every are privy to the total agreement. I posted that in an effort to try to show the poster that the problem was in the past and not a current issue.

 

[5030]

Ron:

Retirement being good to you??

I read that thread, I'd not be too happy. Sounds like a heat treat problem with mucho disassembly.

 

[ronjhall]

<font color="blue"> Retirement being good to you?? </font>
Yes Yes Yes! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
When are you going to retire? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[canoetrpr]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">(
The only thing "Bare bones" on the L-3400 is that is has non-extendable 3pt link arms. Other than that its lacking no features... infact, it has a few that other so called deluxe tractors don't have like a hydraulic pto clutch. )</font>

I stand corrected Neil. I feel even better than I already did about my L3400 decision being a great deal all around! I think the extendable arms can easily be compensated for by the addition of a quick hitch.

 

[5030]

Soon, I believe. I do have to pay for the M9 after all. Problem with retirement is that I think I'd last about a month and then have to go back to work doing something.

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The only thing "Bare bones" on the L-3400 is that is has non-extendable 3pt link arms. Other than that its lacking no features... infact, it has a few that other so called deluxe tractors don't have like a hydraulic pto clutch. )</font>

You mentioned extenble lower link arms.
How about telescoping sway bars ?
Tilt steering ?
Rubber floor mats ?
Reclining, suspension seat ?
Shifter on the floor vs beside the operater (gear model) ?
Unsyncronized transmission vs fully sycronized(gear model) ?
Enclosed cockpit vs looking at the transmission directly under the operator seat ?

I oppologize to the many happy 3400 owners. I'm not trying to knock the 3400. I feel it is a nice, strong machine for the $$.
Simply not in complete agreement with Neil's statement..