Kioti Warranty Concerns

   / Kioti Warranty Concerns
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KIOTI tractors and engines sold in North America are manufactured in Korea and China and distributed from its North Carolina and Ontario facilities.
There's no sources for the claims they're making in that article. I welcome any dealers to weigh into this conversation.
 
   / Kioti Warranty Concerns
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Kubota is able to market these engines as the leading OEM (original equipment manufacturer) of compact diesel and gasoline engines, all of which are built with agricultural, industrial and construction operations in mind.
This is a true statement. Both Kubota and Yanmar are the leading OEM engine manufacturers for the off road equipment industry. Far as I know Kioti does not sell their engines to other OEM manufacturers besides the relabeled tractors which is still manufactured by Kioti which I don't count.
 
   / Kioti Warranty Concerns #65  
Whoa, conversation took off here.

Bill, Kioti is investing heavily in American operations as well. Not certain how many employees they have here yet, but it's growing fast and they have dozens of current job openings posted. Kubota came sooner to the US, but it doesn't necessarily make them more altruistic or patriotic.

Not unlike the Japanese car companies that started out importing all their cars in the 70's. Look at all of the US manufacturing (and assembly) plants having the Toyota, Honda, Mazda banner. Kubota didn't launch assembly plants in the US when they first entered the US market either.
 
   / Kioti Warranty Concerns #66  
This is a true statement. Both Kubota and Yanmar are the leading OEM engine manufacturers for the off road equipment industry. Far as I know Kioti does not sell their engines to other OEM manufacturers besides the relabeled tractors which is still manufactured by Kioti which I don't count.
Are you limiting your comment solely to "Kioti" or are you including "Daedong"?
I know you said that you don't count tractors built by them but here is a sampling:
 
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   / Kioti Warranty Concerns #67  
People choose the Kubota clone for one reason, because it’s cheaper. They have to cut some corners somewhere.
I bought due to value.
I was looking at a Kioti DK 35 and the Kubota models were the L3010 and L3410.
The fit/finish/quality looked every bit as good to me on the Kioti DK as the Kubota models I was comparing.
The DK 35 included rear remotes, extendable sway bars, extendable lower link arms, draft control and mid PTO (all were options on the 3010/3410).
And the price was still lower than the Kubota models even after I added the optional SSQA and heavy duty bucket.
That was 22 years ago and my Kioti has been an excellent tractor.
If I had it to do all over again I would pick the same machine
 
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   / Kioti Warranty Concerns #68  
Phillip Crosby (Quality is Free) asked the question, "Which is a better quality watch, a Timex or Rolex"?
Spoiler alert... it came down to "conformance to requirements". Both provide the owner with the correct time.

I drove both the Kubota L4701 and the DK4510 (that I wound up buying).
The difference was night and day, and not just in cost.

How many Kioti's has Bill driven, or even looked closely at?
 
   / Kioti Warranty Concerns #69  
There's no sources for the claims they're making in that article. I welcome any dealers to weigh into this conversation.
There is a Daedong China, established in 2007 in Anhui province. This center manufactures combine harvesters and rice transplanters for the Chinese market, not the US.

I mean, there is a China Kubota as well, Kubota Agricultural Machinery (SUZHOU) Co., Ltd. Engineering Department | Innovation | Kubota Global Site , so we could say that Kubotas are also 'made in China'. Funny how thats never mentioned on sites trying to sway you into Kubotas like they always do, out of context, for Kioti.

China is well know for making OEMs open a local plant and distribution centers if they want to sell there.
 

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