Tractor News Kubota gearing up to play with the big boys

[TheMadOne]

Maybe I didn't use the correct wording, but kinda the same idea.

CNH raped Versy of patents before they sold them- CNH kept the bi- directional tractor - which Versy pioneered and sold, the Genesis tractor which featured the Supersteer front axle is another that was stolen.

When the US federal judge ordered one of the 4wd lines be sold off, they chose Versatile because it had more value than Steiger.

New Holland purchased Versatile. And its assets, including any patents. They then were forced to sell the brand due to the CNH merger but kept the patents. That's not stealing, that's business. Crappy for Versatile, but still not stealing. Ford/New Holland paid for those patents as part of the initial purchase, if they predated it.(I think they did), or owned them outright if they were developed while Versatile was owned by Ford/New Holland. They were not implied to be part of the offering when CNH put Versatile up for sale. They were CNH's property, and they chose not to sell them with the brand.

None of that is stealing.

That's like if you bought a house with amazing artwork included in the purchase price, lived there a few years, then sold the house but kept the art. The two are only linked in the house being where the art was made originally. Each have their own value and are separate items.

 

[RickB]

New Holland purchased Versatile. And its assets, including any patents. They then were forced to sell the brand due to the CNH merger but kept the patents. That's not stealing, that's business. Crappy for Versatile, but still not stealing. Ford/New Holland paid for those patents as part of the initial purchase, if they predated it.(I think they did), or owned them outright if they were developed while Versatile was owned by Ford/New Holland. They were not implied to be part of the offering when CNH put Versatile up for sale. They were CNH's property, and they chose not to sell them with the brand.

None of that is stealing.

That's like if you bought a house with amazing artwork included in the purchase price, lived there a few years, then sold the house but kept the art. The two are only linked in the house being where the art was made originally. Each have their own value and are separate items.

An apt description.

 

[Paystar]

True enough. But like you say, crappy for Versatile.

As far as this partnership, I'm glad Kubota picked Versatile. There are far worse choices.

Going to be funny to see a Kubota with a Cummins motor and Caterpillar transmission though, LOL.

 

[looch]

True enough. But like you say, crappy for Versatile.

As far as this partnership, I'm glad Kubota picked Versatile. There are far worse choices.

Going to be funny to see a Kubota with a Cummins motor and Caterpillar transmission though, LOL.

I'm wondering about the Buhler/Farm King vs Landpride implications - if any.

 

[RickB]

I'm wondering about the Buhler/Farm King vs Landpride implications - if any.

It is a marketing agreement for tractors. There are no implications for Farm King.

 

[WilliamBos]

No, but CNH taking credit for something that they did not design is completely wrong. But their sheep will believe it.

New Holland purchased Versatile. And its assets, including any patents. They then were forced to sell the brand due to the CNH merger but kept the patents. That's not stealing, that's business. Crappy for Versatile, but still not stealing. Ford/New Holland paid for those patents as part of the initial purchase, if they predated it.(I think they did), or owned them outright if they were developed while Versatile was owned by Ford/New Holland. They were not implied to be part of the offering when CNH put Versatile up for sale. They were CNH's property, and they chose not to sell them with the brand.

None of that is stealing.

That's like if you bought a house with amazing artwork included in the purchase price, lived there a few years, then sold the house but kept the art. The two are only linked in the house being where the art was made originally. Each have their own value and are separate items.

 

[WilliamBos]

I'm wondering about the Buhler/Farm King vs Landpride implications - if any.

The Versatile name will not go away, so there should not be any. I see the Farm King name being put on larger equipment, and Kubota on smaller.

 

[WilliamBos]

Bets its the beginning of Kubota purchasing Versatile.

Did you hang up your wrenches and flock south?

It is a marketing agreement for tractors. There are no implications for Farm King.

 

[looch]

It is a marketing agreement for tractors. There are no implications for Farm King.

That's rather succinct. Buhler owns Farm King, Kubota owns Landpride. Now Kubota is entering into an agreement with Buhler. They will be partners with competing subdivisions.

 

[WilliamBos]

No, Kubota is partnering with Versatile (owned by Rostselmash) - they need to drop John Buhler’s name from the equation. His massive ego led to a bad era for Versatile.

That's rather succinct. Buhler owns Farm King, Kubota owns Landpride. Now Kubota is entering into an agreement with Buhler. They will be partners with competing subdivisions.