Well, we beat the tractor spec and measurement thing to death again.

And I still haven't converted LD1. I am beginning to think it is a lost cause. :dance1:
On the video comparisons, I think it is best if a dealer or manufacturer shows what their product
can do, as opposed to what another product
can't do. Because there are very few apple to apple comparisons in the tractor world. We went through this comparing the BX to the Max. And you could do the same thing with a Max to a B-series. Then a B-series to the 3016/3616. Then the 3016/3616 to a Grand L, and then the Grand L to the 35 series, and so on. Who wins will flip-flop each time you change the models.
When we did the two Max 25 videos, one lifting a forklift and the other pulling our loaded Freightliner, we left the other brands out of the picture. People think they are neat videos and are not trying to figure out how we sabotaged the other brand...because there was no other brand.
So back to the topic,
L3800 or 3616? It's a little of a Chevy Vs Ford thing. Pick your preference, they are both good. If we are speaking of cabs, the 3616 is a really nice package and reasonably priced.
I gotta' get back to work.