Comparison KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150

   / KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150 #31  
Basically it is all part of the LG conglomeration. Not just Electronics, LG does heavy industry and steel as well. They are a huge company. The LS group was spun off the main LG company, and I believe they operate as their own division now.

I owned a couple LS tractors, they were good machines. I left LS when I upgraded to a cab model because the loader lift height was causing issues issues me with what I do with the loader. I went with Massey partly because the loader was at or near the top of the class in every category, and other considerations like quality, comfort, Etc
 
   / KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150
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#32  
Basically it is all part of the LG conglomeration. Not just Electronics, LG does heavy industry and steel as well. They are a huge company. The LS group was spun off the main LG company, and I believe they operate as their own division now.

I owned a couple LS tractors, they were good machines. I left LS when I upgraded to a cab model because the loader lift height was causing issues issues me with what I do with the loader. I went with Massey partly because the loader was at or near the top of the class in every category, and other considerations like quality, comfort, Etc

I really liked the LS XR4155 but I did not want the 3 cyl/turbo... The 4 cyl natural aspirated is what I wanted/looked for in that class/category/capacity and the KUBOTA L4701DT was IT... I made the right decision for ME/my Central Florida farm... But again, that LS was very nice, especially with some of the included extras/price...

Another thing that influenced me away from LS was that I had a recent/previous bad experience with the LS parent-company LG... Prolly should not have affected my decision but it did because the experience cost me a lot of time/money/aggravation and I swore never again anything LG...

Also, I 'heard' that LS was having problems with some tie-rods breaking but that they recognized the problem and were 'on it' with warrantee/fixes...

Anyway, thanks for YOUR help/input...
 
   / KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150
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#33  
YOU are right... I stand corrected... KUBOTA specs for the FEL are not as easy to pin-down (pun intended) and measurements taken in different locations/heights vary... I welcome the info and have posted an amended version of the specs below but still not sure of where/how the FEL measurements are made on this machine...

As for the LS engines I saw, I believe they were Shibaura and the 'newer' ones may be Mitsubishi (made by LS?)... What is the relationship between LG and LS?

kubota L4701DT $24,200 w/ FEL
Net HP 44.8
PTO HP 39.3
Cu In Disp 148.5
B/S 3.4 x 4
Torque 107.8 ft. lbs.
# Cyl 4 NA
Trans 8 f/r SShuttle
3 Pt Cat 1 2,870 / 2,320
Fuel 13.5 Top Tank
Hyd Pump 7.8 gpm
Length OA 122.8
Wheelbase 72.8
Width 62.4
Tires IND/R4
Weight 3296
FEL lift capacity bucket pivot pin max height 1,684
FEL lift capacity bucket pivot pin 1500mm height 2,154
FEL breakout force bucket pivot pin 3,153
RRemote 0
Hyd Position/0 Draft
Seat Standard Adj
3 Pt LL Fixed
OEM Kubota

Here is another tid-bit from a KUBOTA dealer that may help shed-some-light...

The L4701DT loader model number LA765......Take 765 multiply by 2 = 1530lbs. With in 50lbs this would be your lift at full height. This is measured at the quick attach bracket with the bucket off.
 
   / KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150 #34  
The way the Kubota loader numbers work is this:

LA765 --- 760 is the capacity in kilograms (kg) -- 5 is the revision. So the pound capacity is 1675.5#.

Another example -- the LA524 and LA525 loaders on the basic L models -- both 520 kg or 1146#. One is revision 4, one is revision 5.
 
   / KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150 #35  
I looked Korean when I was upgrading from my Kubota L3200. I wanted a premium tractor with a cab. I never had issues with the L3200, but got tired of dust, heat & cold. I wanted some nicer bells & whistles with the upgrade too. I ended up with a L4060hstc after looking at every brand avalible in Colorado.

HST+ with Kubota quality & engineering won me over. The Koreans weren't bad by any rate. It was just some of the smaller things like filter accessibility & maintenance access. The fact they had turbos was actually a plus to me. I live in Colorado & a turbo mostly cancels out our lack of oxygen here at 7,500'+.

Also, there are lots of Kubota dealers around. But only 1 Kioti/TYM/LS dealer in the state. I wasn't impressed with them.

You can definitely get some good machine for the buck with Koreans. Kubota is a nicer machine, but that comes with a heartier pricetag.
 
   / KUBOTA L4701DT vs LS XR4150
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#36  
I looked Korean when I was upgrading from my Kubota L3200. I wanted a premium tractor with a cab. I never had issues with the L3200, but got tired of dust, heat & cold. I wanted some nicer bells & whistles with the upgrade too. I ended up with a L4060hstc after looking at every brand avalible in Colorado.

HST+ with Kubota quality & engineering won me over. The Koreans weren't bad by any rate. It was just some of the smaller things like filter accessibility & maintenance access. The fact they had turbos was actually a plus to me. I live in Colorado & a turbo mostly cancels out our lack of oxygen here at 7,500'+.

Also, there are lots of Kubota dealers around. But only 1 Kioti/TYM/LS dealer in the state. I wasn't impressed with them.

You can definitely get some good machine for the buck with Koreans. Kubota is a nicer machine, but that comes with a heartier price tag.

I discounted KUBOTA during my initial research because I thought they would be more/TOO expensive... I WAS VERY WRONG... I ended-up buying a VERY competitive KUBOTA machine (HP/engines/accessories/implements/etc.) for LESS THAN ANY OTHERS... I am grateful for the 'enlightenment' and I am proud of/happy with my KUBOTA (L4701DT) purchase... That said, I will admit, I came close to buying a LS XR4155 but I did not want the 3 cyl turbo, preferring the 4 cyl naturally aspirated engine on the KUBOTA...

Good luck...
 

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