AK, what is the GVWR of your truck.
Trucks don't have a CGVWR.
If your truck is over 10,300 GVWR then you would require a CDL. If 10.3k or less no CDL needed.
Kubota M59 and Trailer, Weight ?
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AK, what is the GVWR of your truck.
Trucks don't have a CGVWR.
If your truck is over 10,300 GVWR then you would require a CDL. If 10.3k or less no CDL needed.
Dodge, Ford and GM all list GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) and GCWR (Gross Combinded Weight Rating) numbers. The GCWR is the total weight of truck plus trailer which is what I thought people were getting at with CGVWR (Combined Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). I don't see a difference between the two myself.
In order to answer AKfish's question we need to know BOTH the GVWR and GCWR for his vehicle. If he can get the actual weight of his truck, then that would be subtraced from the GCWR to determine the maximum trailer weight for his vehicle.
Unfortunately this will still not resolve the CDL issue as that appears to be federally mandated in the USA with possible state modifications according to what I have read on TBN. Here in Ontario, if you want to tow a trailer weighing more than 10,000 pounds, you must have either an "AZ" license (which is what tractor trailer drivers have) or there is now a "Restricted A" for those of us who tow more than 10,000 pounds but do not want the hassle of maintaining air brake certification and a log book.
Lauren
In order to answer AKfish's question we need to know BOTH the GVWR and GCWR for his vehicle. If he can get the actual weight of his truck, then that would be subtraced from the GCWR to determine the maximum trailer weight for his vehicle.
Unfortunately this will still not resolve the CDL issue as that appears to be federally mandated in the USA with possible state modifications according to what I have read on TBN. Here in Ontario, if you want to tow a trailer weighing more than 10,000 pounds, you must have either an "AZ" license (which is what tractor trailer drivers have) or there is now a "Restricted A" for those of us who tow more than 10,000 pounds but do not want the hassle of maintaining air brake certification and a log book.
Lauren
The GCWR that you are referenceing has nothing to do with the topic at hand of wether or not a CDL is needed. CGVWR is just that. The combined GVWR of the truck and the GVWR of the trailer.
Again, nothing to do with his question.
The GCWR is simply a reference and has no legal bearing here.
Why not? When engaging in interstate commerce the federal regualtion are all that matter. (As far as DL)
Duffster Quote:
Originally Posted by lhansman
Dodge, Ford and GM all list GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) and GCWR (Gross Combinded Weight Rating) numbers. The GCWR is the total weight of truck plus trailer which is what I thought people were getting at with CGVWR (Combined Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). I don't see a difference between the two myself.
The GCWR that you are referenceing has nothing to do with the topic at hand of wether or not a CDL is needed. CGVWR is just that. The combined GVWR of the truck and the GVWR of the trailer.
End Duffster Quote:
Since your previous post stated "Trucks don't have a CGVWR" which is wrong I thought I should point that out. All trucks have a GVWR and a GCWR and I believe for the purposes of this discussion CGVWR and GCWR are the same. That was my point.
Lauren
Originally Posted by lhansman
Dodge, Ford and GM all list GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) and GCWR (Gross Combinded Weight Rating) numbers. The GCWR is the total weight of truck plus trailer which is what I thought people were getting at with CGVWR (Combined Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). I don't see a difference between the two myself.
The GCWR that you are referenceing has nothing to do with the topic at hand of wether or not a CDL is needed. CGVWR is just that. The combined GVWR of the truck and the GVWR of the trailer.
End Duffster Quote:
Since your previous post stated "Trucks don't have a CGVWR" which is wrong I thought I should point that out. All trucks have a GVWR and a GCWR and I believe for the purposes of this discussion CGVWR and GCWR are the same. That was my point.
Lauren
Trucks don't have a CGVWR. When anyone here has mentioned CGVWR it is NOT the same as the GCWR that you are talking about.
The GCWR that you are talking about is NOT a legal rating and would be a measurement of an actual weight.
The GCWR that is in the CDL regulations, or CGVWR if you will, is the combined GVWR of the truck and the GVWR of the trailer.
An example. AKFish states his trailer has a GVWR of 15.7k. We don't know the GVWR but lets assume 12k.
His factory stated GCWR is 22k. But his CGVWR would be 27.7.
jdonovan
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There are two GCWR that are being discussed.
The manufacturer states a GCWR, but that is for relations between you and the dealer and warrantee purposes.
The GCWR that matters to the DOT, the scale house, and the state patrol is the GVWR of the truck + GVWR of the trailer.
The manufacturer states a GCWR, but that is for relations between you and the dealer and warrantee purposes.
The GCWR that matters to the DOT, the scale house, and the state patrol is the GVWR of the truck + GVWR of the trailer.
