Kubota UDT vs. Super UDT

[cart99]

Why NOT get the best possible product to put in there? It *does* get very cold even in Virigina from time to time, and I gather that Super UDT is superior in other ways to regular UDT than just cold weather performance.

Messick's on-line prices are $25.75 for 2.5 gallons of regular UDT and $36.47 for 2.5 of Super UDT. Considering the relative infrequency of having to change the hydraulic fluid (at 50 hours and 300 hours on my B3030 I think), and the occasional "topping off" I might have to do in between, I'll probably average *maybe* 5 gallons a year. OMG, that's a whole extra $21.44 a year. BIG FAT DEAL! it's a totally miniscule price to pay to optimally take care of something i have over $20k invested in, and if I ever re-sell, I can add "Kubota Super UDT hydro fluid since new" to the description.

I run Mobil 1 and top-tier rated gasolines in my vehicles for exactly the same reasons. My car has a hi-revving DOHC V6 that I flog mercilessly and with 90k miles on it, it runs better than new. I believe the Mobil 1 and the gas has at least something to do with that. It really is a small price to pay.

 

[ccsial]

You think like I do.

 

[themichelob]

You can add my name to the list of owners whose dealers don't even sell the Super UDT-- I live in an area that has fairly cold winters, and I use my tractor for snowblowing. Both the parts and service managers are Kubota trained and certified, and both have told me there is no good reason for them to gouge their customers. My machine starts and runs excellent year round on the UDT.
Regards, Mike

 

[ccsial]

My dealer not only stocks Super UDT but delivered my tractor with it installed. This could go on forever. To each his own.

 

[Junkman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( .........Both the parts and service managers are Kubota trained and certified, and both have told me there is no good reason for them to gouge their customers. My machine starts and runs excellent year round on the UDT.
Regards, Mike )</font>

Glad to hear that the UDT works for you. Kubota installs Super UDT in the machines that are factory filled. The dealers fill the machines that are shipped dry with their choice of oils. Kubota only makes the suggestion that you use Super UDT. You are free to make your own choice, however, if you. or your selling dealers parts and service managers think that the small difference in cost is "ripping off the customer", that is their opinion. I don't believe that is what was taught to them at the Kubota training sessions. Since the dealership is so in-tune with customers costs, do they offer parts and service at a good discount? How about new machine purchases, do they offer heavy discounts on these as well?? Personally, I could care less if you were to fill your machine with water, but to say that the other dealers are ripping off the customers by recommending and selling Super UDT, to me is irresponsible. Just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours, and I will agree to disagree with you, your selling dealers parts manager, and the service manager also. End of my participation in this discussion...... Junk...

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Kubota is the manufacturer of both UDT and SUPER UDT. )</font>

No, they are not. Its some Canadian company I think.

We have always used all Super UDT so that we are not mixing a different oil with what comes from the factory. Beyond that, lots of people report performance differences with the Super. It does keep the transmission quiter and makes the RTV drive more smoothly. For the price difference, I'd just do it right.

 

[Junkman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Kubota is the manufacturer of both UDT and SUPER UDT.

No, they are not. Its some Canadian company I think.

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Would have been better stated if it referred to Kubota as the distributor of the branded product called Kubota Super UDT and Kubota UDT? I think that this is splitting hairs, but I didn't start it, but possibly by my posting to this, I might end it. Kubota isn't the manufacturer of many of the products that they sell under the Kubota name and people refer to them as Kubota manufactured. A few that come to mind quickly are the snowblowers, front blades, loader buckets, backhoe buckets, loader and backhoe valves, filters, air cleaners, cabs, tires, wheels, mid mount mowers, etc....... I believe that you have the idea..... Kubota has some of these items made to their specification by outside vendors, and other items are "off the shelf" items that Kubota uses in the production of the final product. Therefore, if we accept these as Kubota manufactured products, then we should also accept Kubota Super UDT and UDT as Kubota manufactured. Maybe we should start to refer to the BX2750 as the snowblower that is distributed by Kubota??? No company, even General Motors manufacturers every single item that goes into their vehicles.

 

[gsxr1100]

If you use the search button you will see this topic has been around more times the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey circus.

Here is one link on it Link 1

Here is another I posted on the properties of the two. Link2

The delta between the two is very close at KV and pour here.

 

[Tom_H]

Kubota is the manufacturer of both UDT and SUPER UDT.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( No, they are not. Its some Canadian company I think.)</font>

Sorry about that Neil. As Junk says, the intent was to say that it is Kubota who markets these two products under these brand names.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

yea, my bad. no biggie.