Kubota v New Holland???

[RhallVA]

Here I am all set to buy a Kubota B2410 and my wife comes home with a New Holland "Boomer" brochure for me to look over. Are there any compact New Holland Tractors that compare in price and performance with the Kubota B2410 (4wd, HST)? Any point in going through the process with a New Holland dealer?

Any opinions or experiences appreciated!
Need to decide quickly if this is worth looking into.
Thanks!

 

[djradz]

NH seems to have addressed the ergonomic features a little better with their new line of "Boomers", but there are probably many other reasons to go orange, ... or green for that matter. I think you'll really find it's just a matter of preference. Why not check them all out, but whatever you look at, make sure you get some "seat" time on them. Put them through the paces. ...forward/reverse, braking, shifting, changing ranges, 3 pt operation, look at access to the engine for typical maintenance. Good luck and have fun. You're about to purchase what argueably could be the most enjoyable purchase of your life.

 

[John_Mc]

The TC21 or TC21D might be close to a B2410. The next step up in the NH line is a TC25... which weighs 1000# more and is physically much larger.

I'd heard rumors of a TC24, which put a larger engine on the TC21 frame (may have been other changes as well ??), but I've never seen one. Worth checking into if you think you need the extra HP.

 

[Knight9]

Before I bought my B2410, I checked out JD, NH and MF. I had a TC29D at home for a while (same frame as the 25D). It is much larger than the B2410. I enjoyed the power of it, but saw potential issues with both my lawn and my bankbook! /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif I ended up going with the smaller Kubota. Haven't had cause to complain about that yet though I haven't had to mow my lawn yet (seeded in the fall).

I did look at the TC21D also, and although I didn't drive it I must confess that it just felt too small for me. I wasn't comfortable on it and the B2410 seemed much more roomy. Could just be me.

Kevin

 

[AndyR]

I found the HST on the Kubota to be far superior to the New Holland. That said, it is true the NH has gone after the yuppies and loaded on lots of creature comforts. I admittedly was planning on buying blue until that test drive.

 

[Thomas]

If it was me I would take a scoot over,for you maybe surprise what NH has to offer.
Read the specs take a spin, that way it shouldn't leave any doubt in the choice you make.

 

[Turfman]

I have been in the market for a new B2710. I saw the New Holland dealer last week at a green industry expo and he said they just go the New Holland dealership. I am looking at the 29 horse, can't remember the model number. Anyway, it looks pretty good. He said the factory would be out this week to work with them on sales and pricing. He promised a very sweet deal on a new unit. I'll be checking and we will see if he comes through.

Kevin

 

[John_Mc]

<font color=blue>I found the HST on the Kubota to be far superior to the New Holland.</font color=blue>

What, exactly did you find better about it? Was it a matter of how well it fit you personally, or some performance/reliability issue? What NH tractor were you comparing? I'm curious, since a Kubota dealer tried to talk me out of an HST transmission when I was looking at a B2910 or L3010. He said there were "some issues" with the HST transmissions on these smaller units (of course, at the time he was trying to talk me into a 3710). I ended up with a NH TC33D because things just seemed to fit me better than on the Kubotas.


<font color=blue>That said, it is true the NH has gone after the yuppies and loaded on lots of creature comforts.</font color=blue>

Good ergonomic design is hardly "going after the yuppies". Spending some design time on making the controls fit the operator, rather than the operator fit the controls, is time well spent, IMO. If you spend a lot of time on the tractor, what some deem creature comforts become a necessity (especially with my bad back & neck). Soem of the farmers I grew up with in Ohio would get a real chuckle knowing they were considered "yuppies" because they had a deluxe seat on their tractor, or put AC in teh cab of their combine. Of course, having said all that, I have to admit those sure do look like yuppies in the first pages of the NH compact tractor brochure!

John_Mc
(an overly defensive NH TC33D owner)/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[AndyR]

I much preferred the servo-controlled HST on the Kubota to the press-harder-for-more-power NH. It is a matter of personal preference - I use the FEL alot and the ergonomics of the NH HST was the thing that drove me orange.

As for your second comment - I am not interested in a fight.

 

[BKColeman]

The HST controls on the Kubota is what has ruled them out for me. I don't like the treadle design at all. After test driving all 3 colors several times, I've narrowed it down to JD or a Class III New Holland (Class II also have a treadle).

To me it just doesn't feel natural, especially when backing up. Plus there was a thread recently where several people mentioned getting their foot hung under the back of it while exiting the tractor. So I, personally, would rather have a twin peddle design, even if I do have to push on it harder. Now with the new JD 4000 ten series having eHydro, that may be just as easy as the Kubota, have to wait and see.