Kubota vs kioti

[psdx]

I think Kioti is the best of the newer tractor lines - those that have come along in the last 20-30 years. And it seems like their quality has really come up in the last 5+ years. They make some very nice equipment these days.

For me personally, I would probably still buy a Kubota over a Kioti - but honestly I think it's just a brand loyalty thing. I have owned six Kubotas. None of them has ever given me a minute of problems. I maintain them religiously and they run perfectly. That being said, someone that buys a Kioti now might feel that same exact way after six of them. In my opinion, if you're not terribly brand conscious I would just drive them both, price them both, compare your experiences with the dealers, and make a decision based on their relative merits. ....at least it will be orange!

 

[bullbreaker]

Need some help guys. I am going to buy a new tractor. I am looking really hard at the kioti DK 75. It is heavier than the kubota, has a very nice comfortable cab( like the kubota). Is quite a bit cheaper, has several features that surpasses the kubota. Why would I pay the extra money for a Kubota?. What would be the benefit? Kioti has a Perkins power plant in this machine. I do realize its a manual shuttle but I think the benefits of the kioti outweigh the kubota. Looking for some factual input. Thanks

I'am not trying to sling mud,but just went over to KIOTI Tractors, Used KIOTI Tractors, KIOTI Tractors For Sale At TractorHouse.com

And there are currently no DK75's for sale.
In that size tractor I would be looking at Bota,Mahindra, JD in that order. Of course opinions are like antholes !

Boone

 

[Grateful11]

We saw a large display of Kioti's at this weeks Southern Farm Show. Funny thing was they were right beside the Kubota's, they blended right together. My only personal problem with Kioti is the dealer network, they're so far and few between around here. The Kubota was mainly my wife's decision as it's her operation. This was the first non-Red as in IH or CaseIh on the farm in about 75 years. One the reasons she didn't go with CaseIH was the dealer network, it's over an hour to the closest CaseIH dealer. When pricing tractors while shopping around for the L3940, we looked at JD, LS, McCormick, NH, and CaseIH. We have a Kubota dealer 1 mile from the farm but chose to drive 25 miles away because of the nearby Kubota dealers reputation.

 

[kubotachief]

I bought a Kubota a year ago knowing that I will trade up eventually, but couldn't afford to at the time. I know the resale would be pretty decent so that helped my decision.

I am super interested in the new Kioti RX6010, have you looked at that one at all?

I don't have anything against my Kubota, I love it and it does what I ask, but I'm probably not going to get another one when I do upgrade. I'd really like that new 6010

I treat drove, at my farm for a week the rx6010. I hauled large big square bales with it, no problem. I pulled a 175 bu manure spreader full, several times in the mud, no problem. I really liked the tractor but it is a little small for some applications that I do. That's why I have been leaning toward the dk75. Most times the 6010 tractor would be the perfect fit. My problem is hills! Lots of rolling hills, nothing is flat where I live. The 6010 would be fine for my needs if I didn't want to pull a square baler with a kicker and wagon. I could still do it on 80% of my fields but some spots are a little dicy. If I had level fields I would have already written the check and 6010 would be in my garage. Its a well designed tractor that is a real workhorse. One that would happen.big plus that I found the kioti has is 12 speeds. I always struggled to find the perfect gear when mowing or bailing hay with my kubota 7040. 4th is to slow, then a jump to 5th is to fast. If you look at the speed charts for the kioti 12 speed transmission I don't think you would have that problem. Kioti also comes standard with 2 mirrors, cab lights on the front and back, and auto back up lights when you shift to reverse.

A small downside is it has a manual shuttle. My kioti rep claimed they will have a hydro shuttle in the very near future. it's really not that big of a deal but would be nicer with the hydro shuttle. The base seat doesn't have arm rests but i would think you can upgrade it to a deluxe seat if you wish.

As I toss the new tractor purchase around I am still tempted to buy the 6010. The reason is it is a little smaller than the dk75 and will maneuver a little better in tight spots like around the barn, stacking big square bales, backing a spreader through the barn etc. LikeI said it will meet my needs well 95% of the time. Most times it would be a positive, the problem then is the hills during hay season while pulling the baler. I can always unhook the wagon and kick the bales on the ground and send my wife and kids to gather them. Like that would happen! Just kidding.

Check out the 6010 and take it for a drive. I'm sure you will give it the thumbs up. I did, I just can't decide what model to get but have a little time to ponder the issue. The only reason I am leaning toward the DK 75 is its a much heavier built and a little more industrial for my application.

 

[Piston]

I treat drove, at my farm for a week the rx6010. I hauled large big square bales with it, no problem. I pulled a 175 bu manure spreader full, several times in the mud, no problem. I really liked the tractor but it is a little small for some applications that I do. That's why I have been leaning toward the dk75. Most times the 6010 tractor would be the perfect fit. My problem is hills! Lots of rolling hills, nothing is flat where I live. The 6010 would be fine for my needs if I didn't want to pull a square baler with a kicker and wagon. I could still do it on 80% of my fields but some spots are a little dicy. If I had level fields I would have already written the check and 6010 would be in my garage. Its a well designed tractor that is a real workhorse. One that would happen.big plus that I found the kioti has is 12 speeds. I always struggled to find the perfect gear when mowing or bailing hay with my kubota 7040. 4th is to slow, then a jump to 5th is to fast. If you look at the speed charts for the kioti 12 speed transmission I don't think you would have that problem. Kioti also comes standard with 2 mirrors, cab lights on the front and back, and auto back up lights when you shift to reverse.

A small downside is it has a manual shuttle. My kioti rep claimed they will have a hydro shuttle in the very near future. it's really not that big of a deal but would be nicer with the hydro shuttle. The base seat doesn't have arm rests but i would think you can upgrade it to a deluxe seat if you wish.

As I toss the new tractor purchase around I am still tempted to buy the 6010. The reason is it is a little smaller than the dk75 and will maneuver a little better in tight spots like around the barn, stacking big square bales, backing a spreader through the barn etc. LikeI said it will meet my needs well 95% of the time. Most times it would be a positive, the problem then is the hills during hay season while pulling the baler. I can always unhook the wagon and kick the bales on the ground and send my wife and kids to gather them. Like that would happen! Just kidding.

Check out the 6010 and take it for a drive. I'm sure you will give it the thumbs up. I did, I just can't decide what model to get but have a little time to ponder the issue. The only reason I am leaning toward the DK 75 is its a much heavier built and a little more industrial for my application.

Is the DK75 a much wider frame than the 6010, and therefor more stable?

Sorry for the basic question, but whats the difference between the hydro shuttle and manual?

Also, how do the prices compare between the DK75 and 6010? What did they give you for a rough price estimate on the new 6010?

How does the size compare between the 6010 and an L series 'bota? My little guy is struggling sometimes and I could use a bigger frame My main concern would be FEL lift capacity.

Thanks for expanding on the details of the 6010, it's too bad they didn't have the hydro shift that you would like. I'm going to be watching for 6010 reviews pretty closely on here :thumbsup:

 

[kubotachief]

Is the DK75 a much wider frame than the 6010, and therefor more stable?

Sorry for the basic question, but whats the difference between the hydro shuttle and manual?

Also, how do the prices compare between the DK75 and 6010? What did they give you for a rough price estimate on the new 6010?

How does the size compare between the 6010 and an L series 'bota? My little guy is struggling sometimes and I could use a bigger frame My main concern would be FEL lift capacity.

Thanks for expanding on the details of the 6010, it's too bad they didn't have the hydro shift that you would like. I'm going to be watching for 6010 reviews pretty closely on here :thumbsup:

Yes te DK 75 is the next frame size up from the 6010. Wider, longer, and heavier.

A manual shuttle you need to clutch between forward and reverse and also need to clutch to engage it. A hydro shuttle you can move to forward or reverse without using the clutch. It has benefits.

A 6010 with a loader and cab is around 37k. I know the DK 75 has a heavier price tag but I don't have that figure. It is quite a bit more. I can post in the future when I have a figure.

The 6010 is much more tractor than any L series. It is very close to the kubota M6040 or M5700 on horse power and frame size.

 

[Piston]

KubotaChief,
Thanks for the info :thumbsup:

 

[capt jack]

I've bought 3 Kubota new (always trading up in size) and got great resale value. First one I bought in 94' cost $17,400 new, used it 5 years, traded in and got $15,000! I also have a DK55 Koiti I bought used from an older gent. He gave $26,000 new, it was 5 years old with 500 hrs. when I got it, in great shape, and I got it for $10,500! . He was trying to buy a cab tractor, and best trade-in offer he had was $10,000. As far as buying brand new, Kioti is a good, strong tractor, and if you KNOW you will keep it forever, go for it. But... if you ever MIGHT trade get a Kubota, you won't be sorry.

 

[charleyfarmall]

What does the DK 75 retail for now? I looked at it when it was first introduced into the US market but it was as expensive as the JD 5083e which I felt was a better tractor. I was set to buy the 5083e when I found a killer deal on a NH TN75Da. I saved too much money to pass it up.

I have used a 60hp Kubota to square bale with but I hated the transmission. It was only an 8x8 and I could never find the right gear to bale with. The NH has a 16x16 and I could always find the right gear. Same for the McCormick I had with a 12x12, I could always find the right gear.

I too had a lot of rolling hills which is why I ended up with the TN75Da. I needed the weight on the hills so the tail wouldn't wag the dog.

I've moved to a smaller flat farm now and no longer need a 75hp tractor so I'll be selling the NH this year.

 

[Tractordawg]

I do believe Kioti quality has improved over the last five years. My experience was with a neighbor that had a backhoe attachment and the boom cracked. Kioti would only weld the crack they would not replace the boom.

Also what is with the gas fuel tanks on the compact tractors? Almost looks like they forget to put them in the design then stuck them on the back as an afterthought.