Kubota

[TripleR]

I forget who it is, but its not Ashland. Kubota sued Ashland for claiming compatibility with SUDT and won.

I remembered an old thread in which Ashland was their provider; guess it is true you can't believe everything on the Internet.:laughing:

 

[bruceatlam]

I don't think engine oil filters are much of an issue, as very high quality oil filters are made by FleetGuard, Hastings/Baldwin, Wix etc. I'd never be concerned about those. They are likely better than a Kubota, frankly.

But the trans filters are so "custom" and I've never found any other option than the Kubota. That's fine, because it doesn't get changed THAT often and it seems to be quite unique, often times with magnetic rings, etc.

They're kind of niche and there isn't likely a big enough segment for the big filter companies to bother with.

Same here ---- I use Napa Gold oil filters on my engine but Kubota on my HST. I never did find a substitute HST filter that met Kubota specs.

 

[harrelson]

OK i got the filters from Napa today and the oil from my dealer. They gave me UDT oil When i check the owners manual it says to use UDT when I look at the shop service manual it said to use Super UDT.



Then I look at the engine oil requirements the owners manual said to use 15w-40 the shop manual said to use 10w-40 . witch one is right ? Will the shell Rotela T oil be ok?

Then the question of oil type there are different ratings in the manual for a external egr valve versus a internal egr valve .

This is a M7040HD-1 Tractor the engine has a turbocharger .

Thanks for any input the owners manual and shop manual have different requirements on every thing

 

[moship]

FYI...

Baldwin has a listing for the Lxx30 and Lxx40 HST filter. It is approximately $25 less in cost and has the billet end cap similar to the Kubota P/N. (Baldwin P/N BT9358)

Super UDT2 seems to be made by Ashland. At least that is what the MSDS posted on Kubota's website implies. (See attachment or link below).
MSDS Link: http://www.kubota.com/assets/safety/pdf/msds/MSDS%20SUDT-2.pdf

 

[gwdixon]

OK i got the filters from Napa today and the oil from my dealer. They gave me UDT oil When i check the owners manual it says to use UDT when I look at the shop service manual it said to use Super UDT.



Then I look at the engine oil requirements the owners manual said to use 15w-40 the shop manual said to use 10w-40 . witch one is right ? Will the shell Rotela T oil be ok?

Then the question of oil type there are different ratings in the manual for a external egr valve versus a internal egr valve .

This is a M7040HD-1 Tractor the engine has a turbocharger .

Thanks for any input the owners manual and shop manual have different requirements on every thing

OK, here is what I use on My M7040HD-1:

11.6 qts. Chevron Delo 15w-40, Kubota HH1C0-32430 oil filter but Wix 51311 (Napa) will do.

14.8 gal. Kubota UDT equivlant (New Holland Ambra but Case HYTran works, too. Stay away from Sam's, Costco, Tractor Supply because of the reliance of the tractor on hydraulics), Kubota HH330-82630 filters (2)

The shop manual is old for the M7040. Check the date and serial numbers that the manual addresses. I'd recommend going by the owner's manual. Then your warranty will be fine.

 

[moship]

Here is the P/N's for the hydraulic filter from both Baldwin and Wix.

Baldwin:
Part Number Manufacturer Baldwin p/n
HHTA037710 KUBOTA BT8488

Wix:
Manufacturer Part Number Manufacturer WIX Part Number
HHTA037710 KUBOTA 57098


Kubota P/N was taken from Messick's web site. Although the Kubota P/N is different than listed by gwdixon, HH330-82630 crossreferences to the same WIX and Balwin P/N listed above. (ie: HHTA-037710 similar to HH330-82630)

DiscountFleet.com has the Wix 57098 for $17.68 while Kubota wants $40.78.

Baldwin Filter: , Oil Filters, Air Filters, Fuel Filters: Stocking factory authorized distributor of Baldwin Filters wants $26.35 for the Baldwin P/N.

I have bought from both places as WIX did not have the HST filter P/N needed for my tractor. Bought several filters at once and saved a bunch even when shipping was added in. Both delivered quickly.

 

[harrelson]

I bought the Wix 557098 filters for the transmission.They are made different and will not except the magnets in the filters. So I will be returning them tomorrow and picking up OEM filters.

Also bought the Napa Gold 1085 engine oil filter next time all filters will be OEM . side by side the Wix filter feels cheaper metal gauge and weight.

This is the 50 Hr service The hydraulic was just as clean as new some sludge on the magnets , the engine oil was a little dark but the front differential oil was very dark. I will replace this again in 50 hrs to keep a eye on it .

Thanks for all the replies and recommendations

Bob

 

[Grateful11]

I just crossed over the L**40 series Hyd. filter, the expensive one, and it's really only $4-6 less than Messick's price, that's not enough to try and track the Baldwin down.

HHTA0-59900 $57.79
Baldwin BT9358 @ Graingers $53.85
Baldwin BT9358 @ Application Associates $51.46

 

[gwdixon]

This is the 50 Hr service The hydraulic was just as clean as new some sludge on the magnets , the engine oil was a little dark but the front differential oil was very dark. I will replace this again in 50 hrs to keep a eye on it .

Thanks for all the replies and recommendations

Bob

The hydraulic oil will generally look clean even after a long period of use. Sometimes the wet brakes will add color but not much. There is no carbon from ignition to darken it.

Engine oil in a diesel gets dark almost immediately. Trust the hours rather than the appearance. The special additives extend the service if good oil is used.

The front differential oil shouldn't be that dark. Kubota puts in UDT but most folks in the know replace it with 80-90 gear oil in the lower 48 (maybe not Minnesota).

The manual way overstates the amount of oil to use in the front differential. I think they list the gear case and the differential as separate units. In fact, it is all one reservoir. Two gallons of gear oil will be plenty with some left over. Then you'll be good for another 600 hrs. No need to change it again in another 50 hrs.

 

[harrelson]

The hydraulic oil will generally look clean even after a long period of use. Sometimes the wet brakes will add color but not much. There is no carbon from ignition to darken it.

Engine oil in a diesel gets dark almost immediately. Trust the hours rather than the appearance. The special additives extend the service if good oil is used.

The front differential oil shouldn't be that dark. Kubota puts in UDT but most folks in the know replace it with 80-90 gear oil in the lower 48 (maybe not Minnesota).

The manual way overstates the amount of oil to use in the front differential. I think they list the gear case and the differential as separate units. In fact, it is all one reservoir. Two gallons of gear oil will be plenty with some left over. Then you'll be good for another 600 hrs. No need to change it again in another 50 hrs.

you are right about the front differential took 2 gallons if that. the manual called for over 3 gallons