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They spray right-of -ways with commercial cemicals like, chopper, or accord (these are glyphosates like roundup just a lot more active ingrediant, they are like 60% or so active and roundup is 40% or so, in not totally up on the makeups, but no you cant just mix roundup stronger to get the equivalent. Garlon is also used in tank mixes for ROW spraying (tank mix is more than one chemical and a surfactant, ie. garlon and accord) I dont see how cows and goats can kill it that is why it was brought her to begin with as well as onl field and gully stabilization. It got away from the cows 60 years ago it will today, cows are fenced kudzu is not. And also the fact that they have deep roots that can stay dormant, cows can dig them roots up.

Clemson had a study or maybe it was in ATL somewhere, but anyway it was to dig up all the roots vs herbicide. They did with as much success of spraying. Not sure id want to be tasked with digging 5-10ft or deeper holes to get the roots of the old ones but hey green is your thing and not kudzu green.

No i have not used 24d and glyphasate but i think it would be pointless, i think 24d is supposed to select broadleaf weeds and not kill grass, so that it can be sprayed over some turf grass. Glyphosate will kill about anything in the right dose if foliar applied so its in my opinion pointless as the 24d and roundup will both kill dandilion or kudzu so why have 2.

Ye kudzu is spread b mowing, the root nodules or things on the vines can take root when a tractor and BH drag them to a new place and they drop off in a big blob of warm wet grass allowing it to root in another place.
 
   / Kudzoo--- your favorite plant... #13  
Clemsonfor, You said something about why the Kudzu was brought over here,
but I didn't understand what you meant about the cows being the reason, or perhaps I misunderstood? I thought this plant was brought over from Asia back in the 1920's or 30's to assist in killing off the Locus that was eating and destroying the farmers crops etc,, well looks like it must have done the job of killing them, although U.S. must not of had a game plan prepared for the kudzu taking over ;)
 
   / Kudzoo--- your favorite plant...
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Clemsonfor, You said something about why the Kudzu was brought over here,
but I didn't understand what you meant about the cows being the reason, or perhaps I misunderstood? I thought this plant was brought over from Asia back in the 1920's or 30's to assist in killing off the Locus that was eating and destroying the farmers crops etc,, well looks like it must have done the job of killing them, although U.S. must not of had a game plan prepared for the kudzu taking over ;)


Really I heard that the Brits brought it over in the 1400's as a decorative flower!

wow..

Ok I will research and post some links!


J
 
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From the wikipedia link above:

United States

Kudzu growing on treesKudzu was introduced from Japan into the United States in 1876 at the Philadelphia Centennial Exposition, where it was promoted as a forage crop and an ornamental plant. From 1935 to the early 1950s, the Soil Conservation Service encouraged farmers in the southeastern United States to plant kudzu to reduce soil erosion as explained above. The Civilian Conservation Corps planted it widely for many years.


Kudzu growing on shrubsIt was subsequently discovered that the southeastern US has near-perfect conditions for kudzu to grow out of control hot, humid summers, frequent rainfall, temperate winters with few hard freezes (kudzu cannot tolerate low freezing temperatures that bring the frost line down through its entire root system, a rare occurrence in this region), and no natural predators. As such, the once-promoted plant was named a pest weed by the United States Department of Agriculture in 1953.


Infestation of Kudzu in the United States.
Kudzu is now common throughout most of the southeastern United States, and has been found as far northeast as Paterson, New Jersey, in 30 Illinois counties including as far north as Evanston,[22] and as far south as Key West, Florida.[citation needed] It has also been found growing in Clackamas County, Oregon in 2000 with no known source. This is the first infestation west of Texas.[23] Kudzu has naturalized into about 20,000 to 30,000 square kilometers (7,700?2,000 sq mi) of land in the United States and costs around $500 million annually in lost cropland and control costs.[24]


Kudzu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

J
 
   / Kudzoo--- your favorite plant... #17  
Erosion control is what I had alway heard. From the last post it sounds like it was also used as a forage and ornamental plant also. Sounds like everyone was right this time. All I know is we are covered up with it here in parts of Georgia and it is as bad as bamboo to get rid of. Not something you spray or cut once and forget.

MarkV
 
   / Kudzoo--- your favorite plant... #18  
No i have not used 24d and glyphasate but i think it would be pointless, i think 24d is supposed to select broadleaf weeds and not kill grass, so that it can be sprayed over some turf grass. Glyphosate will kill about anything in the right dose if foliar applied so its in my opinion pointless as the 24d and roundup will both kill dandilion or kudzu so why have 2.

As an example: I have lots of Mallow. Glyphosate doesn't do much to it and 2,4,d only weakens it. It will recover from both. But if I tank mix the two it kills it dead.

Just curious that's all.
 
   / Kudzoo--- your favorite plant... #19  
the Locus story was something I was told when I was young boy, I have lived with this story all this time, Darn! well at least now I know the real story :D
 
   / Kudzoo--- your favorite plant... #20  
The CCC planted it for erosion control here in middle Tennessee. Since it shades out everything else, it ain't worth 2 cents for erosion control in my opinion. The longer it has been growing, the deeper and more established is the root system. You may think you've got it killed, and then it comes back because of the root system.

I couldn't find it in a quick search today, but someone in the US Forest Service did a comparison test of products to kill kudzu with the fewest repeat applications. My recollection is that picloran was his pick. Trouble is, apparently picloran is pretty potent stuff and you can't just buy it anywhere.
 

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