L2650 questions

[scdawg]

I'm looking at a l2650. It has an everclutch sticker on it. What does that mean? When I drove the tractor, it was a little bit difficult to change gears. With the tractor stopped, I used the clutch but I would sometimes have to press the clutch a few times to get it in gear. Is this unusual? Is it a sign of trouble?
Also, I read that the pto is independent but the pto stopped turning whenever I pressed the clutch. Please pardon my ignorance but I have very little experience with tractors.

 

[rbargeron]

You are asking a good question. Unlike a conventional dry-plate clutch, Kubota's EverClutch is a multi-disk wet clutch, operated hydraulically. It was available starting around 1990 and is considered very durable. It's also a bit rare so few dealers have experience fixing or diagnosing it. (TBN Elite Member Messick's Farm Equip. knows about them)

If it is hard to engage it could just be a valve linkage adjustment. But it might also mean the clutch pack is not disengaging completely - which could be a sign of trouble. It's a spendy unit to fix so it would be wise to check it out before committing to buy it.

There's a thread here about an EC that dragged enough in one direction that it tended to creep along, even in neutral. Does this one do that?

The pto question is confusing on the Lxx50 tractors. There are several different clutch and pto setups. One has a dry two-stage clutch, another has a single dry master clutch with a shuttle for direction, and the EC (wet clutch) models may or may not (depending on model) have a separate dry pto clutch with hand lever. Some pto's are independent, some are 2-speed. (No live independent in these years) Need to look close to figure it out. Take care, Dick B

 

[scdawg]

Thanks for the reply. This tractor is a 93 model with around 500 hrs. The seller says the tractor has always been finicky about shifting. When I drove it, it would come out of gear fine but would sometimes take a few tries to get in gear. I think I'll give it another test drive.
I believe this tractor has a master dry clutch with the shuttle shift.

 

[rbargeron]

Shuttles can be either mechanical or hydraulic, not all hydraulic shuttles are Ever Clutches, but all Ever Clutches are hydraulic shuttles, got all that?

Kubota introduced the hydraulic shuttle (reverser) in the early '80s. They eventually gained enough confidence in it that they used a bigger version of it as the ONLY clutching mechanism for travel, calling it the Ever Clutch. There was still a foot pedal, but it connected to the hydraulic control valve which allowed "feathering" the clutch.

On L4350, L4850 and L5450 models with EC the clutch pedal is linked to a valve and not to a dry clutch plate. There's a hand lever for engaging the pto's dry clutch.

I dunno if the smaller ones (L2650, L2950, L3450, L3650) are the same. My neighbor's L3450 does not have the EC. It has a mechanical shuttle, and has a single-plate dry clutch. The pto stops when the foot pedal is pressed.