L3130

[Kodiak]

In reply to Rat and Ctyler:

I'm not positive about about Kubota's new L3130. But the Woods 1012 FEL fit the existing L3010 just fine. Optional buckets for the the Woods 1012 are the 60" and the 66", both heavy duty. You can also get the optional bobcat style quick attach to change the bucket to forks, etc. As far as removing the loader itself, Woods refers to it as a "Quick Detatch Loader".

An interesting note, that has been spotted by other TBN'ers in the past. The HD buckets and some of the arms utilized on the Kubota loaders appear to be identical to Woods. And I know that Kubota says they make thier own loaders. I'm just curios lf maybe they are designed by Woods and being built under license by Kubota. Has Anyone else noticed this, or have any imput regarding this?

 

[MarkV]

Russ,

I happen to have a friend with a metal fabrication company that makes some of the parts for the Kubota loaders and backhoes. My understanding is that the individual parts are made by varies fabrication companies and assembled by the Kubota factory up the road from me in Gainesville, Ga. I also know that the bucket on my Kubota backhoe is made by Woods and has both their name and Kubotas name on it. That could be the same for the loader buckets although I don't know that for a fact.

MarkV

 

[equipman]

Kodiak
The Kubota L3130 has two Kubota loaders available. The LA513 (1345 lbs capacity & 96.5" height) with 4 66" and 1 72" buckets available. The LA 723 (1870 lbs capacity & 102.4" height) with 5 72" buckets available. The loaders are all quick attach with optional quick attach buckets. Kubota has always been very conservative in rating the loaders. I am very happy to see the 50% increase in loader capacity with the new 30 series.
Lewis

 

[CTyler]

The dealer was quoting Woods 1012, 1016 and Kubota 723 all w/QT. If I remember right these were 66" buckets.

 

[JATO_RaT]

Why would one opt for the LA 513 when the LA 723 has considerablely higher specifications and features? Price?

 

[BWS]

i too am pricing the l3130/l3146 series and am wondering about the following options:the quick attach loader,is this only used for forks??what other implements would you use?should i have a rear remote put in at time of purchase or can this be added later??i plan to get a backhoe but i understand this can be plumbed into the tractor directly.seems like the hydro's [which i,m looking at]dont work with implements as well as gear tractors??does kubota's hst have any pto/brake failure problems?

 

[CTyler]

The backhoe can be run from the tractor hydraulics or from the PTO. The dealer explained to me that you don't really want to run the BH from the tractor. In order to have enough flow you have to rev the motor considerably if not all the way. Then if you want to take the BH off you have to undo the lines. You'll need valves and connectors back there as well.

With the self contained BH it has its own pump that runs off the PTO. The pump will have the higher flow so you dont rev/strain the tractor as much. To remove it just unbolt it, no extra lines or anything.

I'm sure someone with actual experiance can comment on this much better.

 

[Kodiak]

Hi BWS:

I see that I am just to the south of you in Monroe, Wa.

I have a New Holland TC29, that has a Woods backhoe on it.

As for the quick attach for the loader. Most quick attach units are patterned after those on skid steer loaders. And therefore can be ued with a lot of the same attachments that fit a skid steer.

Your rear remote is seperate valved hydralic circuit that is run to the back of the tractor. and is usually equipped with quick release snap couplers. They are used for any implemnt that has its own hydraulic function, such as lowering the teeth in some box blades, or angling some rear blades, logsplitters etc. Perhaps the most common useage is a hydraulic top link for the three point hitch, that allows you to adjust an implement on the fly.
These are a rather expensive option so you should really examine your useage before your purchase. On a note they are usually cheaper at time of purchase than as an afterthought.

As for getting a backhoe I would suggest havit plumbed right off the tractor. The models that your are looking at have more than enough Hydr. flow for a backhoe. If you go with the external pto driven pump, your are just hanging a pump of the pto shaft. and it puts a lot of lateral strain on the bearings. and the external hydr, tank adds that much more weight hanging off the back of the tractor.

Its really not an issue of a hydro versus gear tranny, that your dealing with. you see most tractors don't have a pto brake. Its only tractors equipped with an independent pto (that is a pto activated by a eletric solinoid) that have them. And very few models are equipped that way.

Dont know if you have considered New Holland tractors. They have a great dealer, Brim Tractor, just up I 5 in Burlington. And it sounds like something in the 30hp catagory would be ideal for your needs. You might consider the New Holland TC29's, TC30's, or the TC33's, all of them will handle a backhoe well. Good luck on your tractor hunt.

 

[Kodiak]

Hi Ctyler:

If the model of tractor that your are looking at has a decent gpm and flow rate from its hydr. pump you will have adequate supply to the backhoe. And no matter if you with a external or internal pump you are still going to have to rev your engine up to maintain that higher flow rate. But don't worry because thats exactly what these little deisels are built for. As for a tractor hydr. mounted BH its just two lines off the power beyond ports for the loader to a pair of snap couplers at the back of the tractor. just unpin the mounts, then uncouple the two hoses and drive away. No extra valves needed. The pto pumps are generally 3 to 4 hundred dollars more, and alot of dealers seem to push them for that reason.

 

[CTyler]

Hi Kodiak....

I pulled out the specs on the L3130 and the Woods 7500 BH.
Perhaps you an help me understand the flow on the pumps.

For the L3130:
Implement pump 8.3 GPM
Power steering pump 4.9 GPM
Total hydraulic flow 13.2 GPM

The Woods backhoe optional pumps:
6500 6 GPM
7500 6 GPM
9000 9 GPM

The specs look simple enough and I'm considering this tractor and the 7500 BH. I would assume the power steering pump is dedicated to the PS. Is this correct?

The implement pump will run the loader, Hydro etc... How much flow do you loose through the hydro? Or does the hydro have its own pump?

The rear PTO is run off the engine and not the hydraulics right? Are there efficienies to be gained by using the PTO to run the external pump in the BH?

Strictly looking at the GPM specs w/o any other consideration it appears the the tractor is better for the 6500 and 7500 but not the 9000.

I'm asking about all this stuff because I am new to all this.

Thanks for your help
Chris