I posted a price on a new L3410 with loader at $15500 cause when it was priced they listed $19200 as price less discount. What I thought was discount cause it had minus sign in front was actually down payment leaving $15500 to finance. Boy do I feel stupid when I went back.....However, $19200 seems much to high.....care to help me out again guys sorry for the stupidity here. Needless to say I was going to jump on the purchase....Now what is fair for L3410 HST with loader or an L3710 HST with loader?????