L35 or L4610???

[jedens]

Rbargeron,
Your point about doing much mowing without a FEL is a good thought that I hadn't considered. With much mowing I would think it would be nice for visibility and maneuverability to take the FEL off. I'm getting lots of info that I wouldn't have considered by myself. This forum is great for getting up the learning curve fast and learning from other people's experiences. Thanks to all!
Joe

 

[jedens]

Hi Hayden,
I didn't realize that the L35 backhoe used the same hydraulics as the tractor, like the JD does. My thinking on this was if I somehow blew something on the backhoe hydraulics I wouldn't be sending debris through the hydraulic system to the tractor. Maybe this is something that couldn't happen.
The HST issue is something that I thinking about. I've driven an HST but not a GST so I need to go try the GST and see what it is like. Thanks!
Joe

 

[rbargeron]

I'm told the L48 uses 2 permanent pumps for the backhoe - and it is quite quick - someone can probably confirm this. I get the idea it is a lot faster than the L4560 - able to move more ways at the same time.

 

[DavidInNH]

The L48 backhoe runs off of the tractor hydraulics. There are 3 lines. I believe these are two feeds and a common return - I'll confirm tonight when I can look at the book. I have no experience with any backhoe besides this one, but it certainly feels fast. The contractor I bought it from said that that the backhoe speed was one of the primary reasons he bought it. BTW, the L48 has a huge 25.9 GPM hydraulic capacity.

-david

 

[JATO_RaT]

Dick, the L48 actualy has 3 pumps. The pump that is part of the engine system like many that run off a cam gear, crank gear etc. runs the rear implements, that is, it runs only the swing on the backhoe. If your not running a hoe then it runs the TNT or a hydraulic auger on a post hole digger etc. The other two pumps are mounted up front and one runs the power steering (which is excellent on the L48, I notice no difference with a 20+ cu. ft. of material in the bucket vs it being empty) the other pump which is the largest in terms of pump capacity runs the loader and the hoe as well as the 3 pt hitch. All in all the pump total is about 26 gpm at about 2700 PSI. The hydraulics on the L48 are very well laid out. I added TNT to my tractor in minutes (literally). The TNT ties into the quick connectors at the back and quickly comes apart if you want to put the hoe on. Its a snap and comes with 3 sets of remotes. A simple flip of a lever/valve at the back sets you up. Having HST as I have mentioned has been an absolute joy. While I still enjoy my gear drive (thats for all the die hard gear only folks), the HST is so much quicker with the loader work as well as hooking up 3 pt. implements. Rat...

 

[DavidInNH]

Rat - what is TNT?

Thanks,
David

 

[Bird]

<font color=blue>what is TNT</font color=blue>

Hydraulic Top 'N Tilt on the 3-point hitch.

 

[Carl_NH]

Joe,

Check the ground clearance with the subframe on the L4610, you might find it's close to the L35, also the underside of the L35 is shielded. L35 is 12.6" and L4610 is 15" w/o subframe, which I think will drop it a few inches, but since I haven't seen this setup I can't tell you how much.

For your application I would think R4's are the choice with rocks and stumps so changing tires to increase the clearance - that's expensive for an 1" or so you might gain, plus wider higher tires could cause clearance issues to controls, fenders etc.

Your concern about getting debris into the system with a failed hose, well, thats a remote possiblity but usually they leak first, also the return oil is filtered.

Carl

 

[DavidInNH]

Thanks!

 

[Mike_A]

I just traded my JD4600 with a woods 9000 backhoe for a L48 TLB. The biggest reason for trading was the speed, reach and power the L48 has compared to the JD and woods hoe. My 4600 had 400 hours and about half of that was probably backhoe time. Only got the L48 delivered on the 16th of April and left that friday for a weeks vacation so have only got to use tractor for maybe and hour so just putting around. I did however test the L48 backhoe and my woods hoe side by side before trading and the L48 will dig about twice as fast as the JD and woods hoe. I also took tractor next door to a Building Supply company to see how much weight the front loader would actually lift. Tractor has quick attach front loader and with a set of Woods DF4200 forks lifted a pallet of 50 pound bags of calcium cloride. Started with 2,450 pounds and lifted to about 6' high with no problem. Kept adding 100 pounds at a time and at 2,750 pounds it kept going up but very slowley, at 2,850 pounds it refused to budge. Woods DF4200 forks weigh 372 pounds, quick attachment for loader weighs about 300 pounds, wooden pallet weight maybe 25 pounds. Tractor is listed to lift 3000 pounds at the pivot pins to full height. I stoped at about 6' high with all the lifts but the first 2,450 went up with ease and I believe I could of taken it to full height easily, thats a total of 3075 pounds. I waiting to do my first trenching job to really see how well the backhoe works but even with so little tractor time am very pleased and excited with this tractor. Learned a lot from this web site before trading and looking forward to more info in the future.