L39 or JD 110 tlb

[spo307]

I have been reading for sometime now, great site I am looking to get a tlb for my property, 58 acres, I have a 7' alamo flail, to mow about 13 acres, the backhoe is needed for tree replanting to close up some of the 13 acres, maintaining logging roads etc, maybe dig a pond, I like kubotas and have ran several excavators, I have ran cat 446 & 426, I really like the L39. I just want to ask for your opinions, which is a better machine for what I described, kubota L39, or john deere 110 thank in advance for the opionons

 

[Builder]

I have been reading for sometime now, great site I am looking to get a tlb for my property, 58 acres, I have a 7' alamo flail, to mow about 13 acres, the backhoe is needed for tree replanting to close up some of the 13 acres, maintaining logging roads etc, maybe dig a pond, I like kubotas and have ran several excavators, I have ran cat 446 & 426, I really like the L39. I just want to ask for your opinions, which is a better machine for what I described, kubota L39, or john deere 110 thank in advance for the opionons

Have you considered an L-48? Comparable in price to a 110, but might be a little "harder" and a little more powerful. Compare the PTO HP8 ios 37.5 the 110 is only 33. That extra PTO HP will come in handy for your mower. The engine is 5 more HP (12% more)

The L-39 is a smaller shuttle shift tractor. The 110 is a hydrostatic, like the L-48.

The 110, IMO, is more like a small backhoe. The loader & backhoe controls are more like a real dedicated backhoe. It has the creep feature which allows movement from the backhoe seat. It has the side instrument panel. It seems more like a construction site machine when I used it. The L-48 seems like more of an all-around machine for farm or landscape construction.

The L-39 doesn't have the creep feature, it's smaller and less powerful, but it's also less expensive. I owned one for 1 year. I liked it, but it was the wrong machine for me. I didn't like the soft, thin sheetmetal on the hood. The front tires are smallish. Otherwise it's typical Kubota-tough and well engineered.

I guess what I'm saying is to check out the L-48, you might find it to be a better comparison to the 110 than the L-39.

 

[dogbreath108]

I do not own either, and would say that they are both very good tractors for the size. But would think that you would go for a larger machine... They are fairly small tractors and I would think you will rapidly outgrow. Which will cost you $ when you want to trade up in 9 months.
Maybe you should look at the bota M series or the 52** JD series. They are just a little larger with a lot more capacity.

just 2 cents worth

good luck

Joe

 

[Builder]

If you're open to another plan, I too would consider a nice old Case 580E or SuperK 4x4 backhoe for about $20 grand and a nice used 60HP 4x4 farm tractor for mowing for about $15 grand. That way you can have 2 MUCH bigger machines with so much more power & capability. I can tell you with personal hands on experience with both, that my L-39 was just a toy compared to my Case 580.

Here's a comparison of the L-48 and the JD 110

http://www.kubota.com/f/products/l48_comps.pdf

 

[spo307]

I know theres no comparrison between a L39 and a cat 426 4x4 hoe, I was just trying to get it all in one machine, you point sounds good a full size backhoe and a tractor for the flail mower

 

[spo307]

builder where are you in pa, I got a buddy in leihegton

 

[Builder]

I know theres no comparrison between a L39 and a cat 426 4x4 hoe, I was just trying to get it all in one machine, you point sounds good a full size backhoe and a tractor for the flail mower

No problem. I just saw the size of your property and the fact that you want to dig a pond and thought you might be better off with 2 bigger used machines. IMO, those compact TLB's are too expensive for what you get. Been there/ done that.

You can get a 3000 hr used full size 4x4 TLB with a cab for 20 grand if you look a little.
-CASE-580 Super K-glenolden-PA

1987-CASE-580k-Grand Blanc-MI

1994-Case-590-Berwick-PA


You could get a real nice 4x4 farm tractor for ~15K:
http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=5320191&guid=67312951E7AD4255A006E0720339DFB7

http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=5318920&guid=67312951E7AD4255A006E0720339DFB7

 

[machmeter62]

Have you considered an L-48? Comparable in price to a 110, but might be a little "harder" and a little more powerful. Compare the PTO HP8 ios 37.5 the 110 is only 33. That extra PTO HP will come in handy for your mower. The engine is 5 more HP (12% more)

The L-39 is a smaller shuttle shift tractor. The 110 is a hydrostatic, like the L-48.

The 110, IMO, is more like a small backhoe. The loader & backhoe controls are more like a real dedicated backhoe. It has the creep feature which allows movement from the backhoe seat. It has the side instrument panel. It seems more like a construction site machine when I used it. The L-48 seems like more of an all-around machine for farm or landscape construction.

The L-39 doesn't have the creep feature, it's smaller and less powerful, but it's also less expensive. I owned one for 1 year. I liked it, but it was the wrong machine for me. I didn't like the soft, thin sheetmetal on the hood. The front tires are smallish. Otherwise it's typical Kubota-tough and well engineered.

I guess what I'm saying is to check out the L-48, you might find it to be a better comparison to the 110 than the L-39.

RAT, a poster here, purchase a new L-48 when the production started; he liked every thing about the tractor, except the HST gearing wasn't suitable for mowing, and ended up selling it! The low was too low, and the mid-range too high, I think?

 

[Builder]

RAT, a poster here, purchase a new L-48 when the production started; he liked every thing about the tractor, except the HST gearing wasn't suitable for mowing, and ended up selling it! The low was too low, and the mid-range too high, I think?

I had heard that too, but you have to remember the 110 is also a 3 range HST trans like the L-48. So both may suffer that same fault depending on speeds in each range.

I'm just turned off by small TLB's after owning one compared to full size machines. The work output/dollar is so much better with a full size and 3000-5000 hrs on a quality brand full size is nothing. A small TLB would be getting close to worn-out.

 

[Builder]

builder where are you in pa, I got a buddy in leihegton

I'm in SE PA....Philly suburbs.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I researched the 110 extensively when they came out. I knew much more then the dealers, tested one here on the farm and had already made a deal.
There was some misunderstanding with my father and it never went through.

I was quite infatuated with the 110.

It is a beautiful machine, and in my mind a much nicer machine then the 48.

However, the advertising campagne can lead you to believe that the 110 is in a league that it is not. It is not to be confused with the 310 ect family. It has an awesome hoe, for sure, but the 110 is really just a 4000 series tractor with yellow paint. A parts lookup did prove, it had the same tranny as the 4000 series tractor. They also make some reference to their crawler transmissions! These are some VERY clever advertising tactics!

One fellow complained that the fan would rub on the radiator shroud when transporting a load of dirt over uneven terrain, and the tractor frame would flex!

The 110 is expensive for what it is. It is a beautiful tractor, and if money isn't an issue, go for it, but don't think you are buying a piece of construction equipment.

I also didn't like the fact that you couldn't get a factory cab, but this would have made the tractor even more expensive and uncompetitive.

 

[wolc123]

I dont think the 110 is just a 4000 series, I think it has more in common with the 3000 series, namely the overseas engine rather than the American JD powertech of the 4000 series.

 

[shasta]

I am looking to get a tlb for my property, 58 acres, I have a 7' alamo flail, to mow about 13 acres, the backhoe is needed for tree replanting to close up some of the 13 acres, maintaining logging roads etc, maybe dig a pond, I just want to ask for your opinions, which is a better machine for what I described, kubota L39, or john deere 110 thank in advance for the opionons

I have about 500 hrs on my L39 doing the same type things you wish to do and a few more. My experience has been that the L39 is a great piece of equipment for these type chores. I can't tell you if it is better or worse than the 110 as I only looked at them when I was shopping and have not used one. I don't have the time or place to do work on older equipment so, even though they were around I didn't find any I felt comfortable in buying. For what it is worth, the L39 was a good choice for me.

 

[Woodbeef]

Have you checked out the Yanmar tlb yet. I'd say it's the best of the bunch. Yanmar America Corporation - Backhoe Loaders - CBL40

 

[john_bud]

I'd heard the 110 is a rebadged Yanmar. Check them out and see.

jb

 

[Builder]

Have you checked out the Yanmar tlb yet. I'd say it's the best of the bunch. Yanmar America Corporation - Backhoe Loaders - CBL40

At 24HP, the pto is too weak. IMO, if you need PTO driven implements, it's a deal breaker.

 

[SkyPup]

I also have 500 bullet proof hours on my L-39 and it has been great.

I looked at the JD110 and good thing I did, all those exposed hydraulic lines on the chassis belly meant major problems and repairs.

Haven't had a problem with the L-39 and especially enjoy the GST tranny and the hard working hoe, not to mention I can't believe how much work this thing will do sipping a measly gallon of diesel fuel....

 

[AKfish]

Spo307 -- I've been workin' thru the same decision that you're lookin' at right now.

You've got more ground to work -- I've got 20 acres with alot of trees -- that I want to turn into hay and pasture.

Good advice here --- a good, low hour full-size TLB can take on bigger jobs and work more ground; i.e. dig that pond deeper and bigger, etc.

But machines are like kids and dogs --- ya' gotta feed 'em and clothe 'em and take 'em to the doctor when they get sick...

If you can afford 2 used machines and don't mind a bigger outlay to support 'em; then that option makes sense for you.

I looked at the 110 and the 39. The 110 is a bigger machine and just plain more iron. Physically, the 110 is closer to the 48 in size, wt. and capacities; i.e. loader and hoe specs. A hundred pounds here or there for one or the other --- (there's a whole crowd here on TBN that will split hairs on this stuff until the dust is so thick ya' can't see the issue at all and then everyone will settle down and agree that all the spec sheets from the manufacturers are wrong or outdated or maybe the printer got it messed up.... ad nauesum!?!?) But in the real work world; I won't know if there's 40lbs more or less in the front bucket when I'm movin' dirt---

A good used, 110 will cost you (on avg $3K) more than a 39. The 110 and the 48 are much closer in price.

Builder is right on the prices of these new smaller frame TLB's. They cost way, way too much for the amount and kinds of work they can reasonably take on. But the same criticism can be made for the CUT's that are on the market, now. A good, used Ag-type tractor in the 35-55hp will out bale, out mow, out pull and take on bigger jobs than the same Hp CUT for a whole lot less money, IMO.

The price of a new, green 3000-4000 series TLB with all the hyraulic options, lights, etc. will be in the mid $30's to $40's. (A cab model CUT will cost more than a 110.)

On an equal Hp comparison of models, that's just about ~$3K less than a "tricked out" 110. I should know -- I've got all the quotes on my desk....

Best thing is --- get in the seat and see for yourself. Get a feel for the controls and a sense of how the things are put together.

Anybody who claims the 110 is a "rebadge" Yanmar or a 3000 series, etc. hasn't spent much time on either machine, IMO. That's like sayin' the 48 is just a L4730 or L4740.... not even in the same ballpark!!!

Sorry for the dragged out post --- but this horse has been on the track quite a bit the past couple of weeks here on TBN...

You know what you need to do right now with a TLB and what you're likely gonna do in 3,4,5 years. After you crawl around a couple of the smaller, TLB's you should have a pretty good idea if any of 'em will fit the bill.

Best of luck in your decision.

AKfish

 

[SHIFTY]

I have been reading for sometime now, great site I am looking to get a tlb for my property, 58 acres, I have a 7' alamo flail, to mow about 13 acres, the backhoe is needed for tree replanting to close up some of the 13 acres, maintaining logging roads etc, maybe dig a pond, I like kubotas and have ran several excavators, I have ran cat 446 & 426, I really like the L39. I just want to ask for your opinions, which is a better machine for what I described, kubota L39, or john deere 110 thank in advance for the opionons

You should also consider the Yanmar CLB-40, Ive seen some comparisons and the Yanmar does seem to have an edge over the L-39 and 110. They will all be reliable - Good luck

 

[mike69440]

I own a L39 and a Komatsu PC75UU-2e excavator on 17 acres of tough NH land.

I bought too small in both cases. I should have gotten an 11-15 ton excavator and a full size backhoe.

You need the 3 point. I have kept the BH on my L39 and done the little bit of 3 point work with either my Kubota B7200 or neighbors L3400.

If you are looking at just one tractor, the L48 is your best buy.

The L39 is a good machine. The new M59 is stupid expensive, to close to a full size TLB in cost, so that why the L48 is the best bet for you size of property.