L4701 for 100 acres?

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I'm trying to decide on our first tractor. We own 100 acres which 60 to 65 of flat pasture and the rest wooded.

Major task will be bush hogging, gardening and loader work.

The L4701 seems like a good choice to start with as an all around general tractor to meet most of the task, and then maybe later down the road upgrade to a larger tractor if we ever start trying to do our own hay.
 
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Consider a Kubota 'Grand L' L4060 or utilitarian MX4800 on the same heavy chassis, in lieu of Kubota 'standard L' L4701.

If you will spend a lot of hours in the tractor seat the L4060 will leave you less tired at end of the day. Especially if you are 6' tall or taller.

3,307 pounds, bare tractor (L4701) to 3,527 pounds, bare tractor (L4060), is still on the light side, in my opinion.

Consider the Kubota M60 series too. M60 = 4,387 pounds bare tractor to 5,027 pounds, bare tractor. You will not need to upgrade for hay if you initially invest in one of the M60 tractors.

Selling a used tractor is easy. Selling multiple light implements in order to buy heavier, wider, implements for a heavier tractor is a pain and often a big hit in depreciation. ((Ask me how I know.)) Some who buy too light tractors buy too light implements.

Cabs are wonderful options but with A/C add $8,000 (+/-) to tractor cost.


Here is a Mowing Calculator: Mowing Calcuator | How many acres can I mow in an hour
 
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I guess upgrade was the wrong choice of words. If I do grow to that point, I'd be looking to purchase a larger M6060 or the 70.

I'd keep the smaller tractor for garden work, trimming around the fences, and mowing the alleyways
 
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If you compare the physical dimensions, the three are not too much different.

TRACTORDATA LINK: Compare Tractors - TractorData.com

Older tractors almost never receive the TLC newer tractors receive.

If you have two tractors about the same size, the older will sit, the newer will be used.
 
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I'm trying to decide on our first tractor. We own 100 acres which 60 to 65 of flat pasture and the rest wooded.

Major task will be bush hogging, gardening and loader work...
I didn't read any other comments, I'll give you my thoughts. L4701 is a smaller tractor for what you need to tackle but it could do it, just takes more time. Do you have the free time? I have a smaller tractor, it gets everything I need to get done... just a little slower. (I think of it as "more seat time!") I only cut once a year the whole place...

One thing I would point out about buying tractors, is there is an "ante" of sorts, to get to a certain price point. Going a bit larger later on will cost you more than upgrading now and getting a bigger tractor to start with.
 
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Me personally there’s no way that size of tractor would be what up I used as a main one for me if I had that much land. I’m not rich by any means but have more money than time and when it comes to mowing, I want to get it done and over with ASAP. I don’t want to do 5acres a day to when I’m done I have to start back over. I would recommend buying a 100hp-ish and a batwing for mowing. It makes things much faster and efficient. A cab is a must for me too. I don’t mind mowing as much now however, I’m almost as efficient as I can make my set up. I have gps to reduce overlap because the more I cut at once reduces my time in the field

Brett
 
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I'm trying to decide on our first tractor. We own 100 acres which 60 to 65 of flat pasture and the rest wooded.

Major task will be bush hogging, gardening and loader work.

The L4701 seems like a good choice to start with as an all around general tractor to meet most of the task, and then maybe later down the road upgrade to a larger tractor if we ever start trying to do our own hay.

If I understand correctly, you plan to mow 60 to 65 acres....

If so, one must ask how much time do you have for mowing.

Yes, you can mow 60+ acres with 40-45 HP but you will be spending a great deal of time mowing. Indeed, you can do it with a 25 PTO HP Ford 8N and a 5' mower (I've done it.) but one must really love mowing to do so.

A 40-45 PTO HP tractor will handle a 6' rough cut mower in most (no not all) conditions. Yes, such tractors will handle a very light weight 7' mower in IDEAL conditions and even a light weight 12' BW mower in ABSOLUTELY IDEAL conditions but you will be moving slowly in even moderate cover. Mowing 60+ acres with a 6' or 7' mower takes a long time, especially if the cover is heavy forcing low ground speed. How often do you plan to mow your 60+ acres?

I've spent over 40 years mowing with various tractor/mower combinations in various conditions and I would consider nothing less than 90 PTO HP and a 15' BW mower to mow 60+ acres unless I considered mowing to be therapy, as I once did but no longer do. BTDT.

Currently, I have an L6060 combined with a HD 6' mower to mow my parcels with many obstacles and to cut-in (1 or 2 rounds) my larger parcels. I also have an M9960 to mow the larger parcels. Recently, I've been using a HD 7' mower (sold the HD mounted 10.5' cutter for various reasons) with the 9960. I try to mow as fast as my mowers will cut and clear properly, and yes, in the spring when cover is heavy, the 90 PTO HP 9960 is sometimes HP limited in EPTO with the 7' mower. I'm currently shopping for a 12' or 15' BW for use with the 9960, albeit at considerably lower ground speed and never in EPTO.

HP is like money and (for a young man) women. Some's good and more's better.

SDT
 
   / L4701 for 100 acres? #10  
I'm trying to decide on our first tractor. We own 100 acres which 60 to 65 of flat pasture and the rest wooded.

Major task will be bush hogging, gardening and loader work.

The L4701 seems like a good choice to start with as an all around general tractor to meet most of the task, and then maybe later down the road upgrade to a larger tractor if we ever start trying to do our own hay.

jeff's boilerplate is good but we could use more info.

Is this for "business" or hobby?
If a business you might want to think a little larger at the outset, like a MX5800.

With 40 acres of wood - what are your plans for that?
Trail building?
Firewood?
Small personal sawmill?

Are you going to keep all the pasture "pasture"? How much bush hogging do you plan to do? 65 acres several times a year or run sheep and just an occasional touch up?

And have you looked at other brands? Kubota is noted for being "light", with other brands such a Kioti being heavier.

Overall the L4701 seems like a good starter choice.

And as far as "If you have two tractors about the same size, the older will sit, the newer will be used." Not true, buy a tractor for every attachment, saves time on hooking up the 3pt :)
 

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