LA 272 Loader Problem

   / LA 272 Loader Problem #11  
Adam23 said:
Yeah - I am also going to have to be a little more careful! :eek:
Me too. But is this problem happening on Kubota loaders only? I don't have a Kubota loader, I have an Ansung.
 
   / LA 272 Loader Problem #12  
Texas Dodge said:
Me too. But is this problem happening on Kubota loaders only? I don't have a Kubota loader, I have an Ansung.

I wouldn't think so, he and many of us have and will do it again. This is something that you have to be very careful with since it puts the cylinder rods in a very vulnerable position.

I would think the toothbar helped since it grabbed the root.
 
   / LA 272 Loader Problem #13  
Stu, I'm assuming you were going forward when this happened?

I always assumed that it was much worse on the cyclinders/hydraulics to go forward with the bucket in the dump position than back dragging. But Westendorf-RR is saying that back dragging is the problem. Typically if you are back dragging and hit an object the bucket tends to ride up and over it while if you do this going forward the bucket edge, and particularly bucket teeth are going to snag and generate much more force.

In any case, I back drag all the time with the bucker in the dump position (not fully though) but I almost never use the blade like a dozer.

However, that back drag edge looks like a great idea. I think it would be perfect for a tractor that had a toothbar since the toothbar makes smoothing with the blade impossible.
 
   / LA 272 Loader Problem
  • Thread Starter
#15  
N80 said:
Stu, I'm assuming you were going forward when this happened?

I always assumed that it was much worse on the cyclinders/hydraulics to go forward with the bucket in the dump position than back dragging. But Westendorf-RR is saying that back dragging is the problem. Typically if you are back dragging and hit an object the bucket tends to ride up and over it while if you do this going forward the bucket edge, and particularly bucket teeth are going to snag and generate much more force.

In any case, I back drag all the time with the bucker in the dump position (not fully though) but I almost never use the blade like a dozer.

However, that back drag edge looks like a great idea. I think it would be perfect for a tractor that had a toothbar since the toothbar makes smoothing with the blade impossible.

George,

You are correct..... I was going forward.....bucket curled all the way down..... and one of the teeth on the toothbar snagged a big oak root.......and the rest is history.

Never had a problem backdragging.......and the way I see it.....the forces applied on the cylinder rod in these 2 situations are different.

I will continue to use my loader as I was when I broke the rod.......but just much more mindful of whats at stake!

Stu
 
   / LA 272 Loader Problem #16  
So the conclusion is we can back drag and it is ok?:confused:
 
   / LA 272 Loader Problem #17  
Texas Dodge said:
So the conclusion is we can back drag and it is ok?:confused:

I'm not going to tell anyone else that back dragging is okay. But in my experience when the down tilted blade hits an obstacle going backwards there is enough play in the loader arms that it just bumps up and over. It also helps if the tractor is light. But going forward if the blade catches it cannot ride over the obstacle and will dig in.

Anyway, that's my theory based on limited experience. But it is not to suggest that you or me or anyone else can't break something while back dragging. I'm sure it can be done.
 
   / LA 272 Loader Problem #18  
If you're going forward or backward with the bucket in the rolled under (rams exposed) position you can damage the rams and or cylinders. If you go slow and are careful you minimize the chances, but it is still there. What N80 says is true, just make sure you have the loader in float. With the cylinders are fully entended they are still vunerable to damage. Consider for example, you have a 2-1/2" cylinder but the ram inside may only be a 1 3/8". The structure, stability and strength of the cylinder is reduced by half when the bucket is tipped under and rams exposed. By having a blade on the the back of the bucket or just using the back bottom edge of the bucket to drag, you are keeping the rams inside the cylinders, protected while retaining the integrity and strength of the cylinders.

In reply to the question - bolt-on or weld-on, the blade is a weld-on item. It does not interfere with normal bucket use. Anytime you drill holes to bolt something on - it weakens the steel; plus it could cause the bucket to leak.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

2009 Toyota RAV4 SUV (A48082)
2009 Toyota RAV4...
2022 Club Car Tempo Golf Cart (A48082)
2022 Club Car...
4 Yard Commercial Dumpster (A49346)
4 Yard Commercial...
2017 Ford Explorer Police SUV (A48082)
2017 Ford Explorer...
Komatsu D39PX-24 Crawler Tractor Dozer (A49346)
Komatsu D39PX-24...
2023 Bobcat T770 Skidloader (RIDE AND DRIVE) (LIKE NEW) (A50774)
2023 Bobcat T770...
 
Top