Comparison LA135 vs. X300

   / LA135 vs. X300 #11  
The Ariens 1540 H series tractors were made from mid 80's until very early 90's. It is a much stouter machine than the LA series, the frame is very stout, similar in design to the uni-frame 9 gauge YT series. it has a solid steel bar type front axle with a reinforced front frame section and it's H design nearly eliminates flexing or cracking. the 1540 is capable of using a tiller and other ground engaging equipment. The Ariens uses a Eaton 750 transmission that is rated at more than double the torque of the k46 (Eaton 750= 215 continuous/ 345 int / 540 peak; k46= 120 cont/ 170 int/ 300 peak). The Eaton is also a much better design, single pump with two motors, one on each axle, to apply equal torque to both axles at all times for much improved traction. I am VERY surprised that it failed as it is a very stout unit in comparison to the K46.
I am a collector of tractors and have owned/bought/sold/kept in access of 200 tractors and the JD light duty machines are a poor choice in their class regarding durability. They have exceedingly high failure rates with transmissions, deck mounting system, and body parts (breaking, cracking) and also of note are electrical issues. If your budget is 2k, you are exceedingly better off spending that money on a low hour 90's model WheelHorse 400/500 series machine, you will be handing it down to your children, they are that good. I would also consider a low hour JD GT235 series machine as it will out work and out last the new LA or x300 two fold even if you are staring out 15 years to the rears. Find one with under 400 hrs thats been stored indoors and well cared for and you will be very satisfied.

If you are determined to go new, a husqvarna made garden tractor with a stout hydrogear 300 series or tuff-torq k65 transmission can be had, such as the GT2554/Sears GT/Toro GT 2200, all are a a better product, generally, than the low end JD. I hate to berate a brand, but in the 2k price class, it is extremely competitive so one must look for the most durable components available VS brand. Most all are very similar concerning features and appearance so look for the highest quality transmission, the most common item to fail, in the price range. One must also consider were to purchase a product, the independent dealers win big over the box stores, although Sears is pretty decent with response time and quality of the techs they send out, usually independent contractors that are well trained.

So thats it...me, I would absolutely purchase a good used WheelHorse 400/500 series or look for a JD GT235 10 fold VS a new product in the 2k price range. You will get much more for your money if you shop wisely. I can think of no product made in 2010 that i would classify as a "quality" machine in the 2k price class.
 
   / LA135 vs. X300
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So thats it...me, I would absolutely purchase a good used WheelHorse 400/500 series or look for a JD GT235 10 fold VS a new product in the 2k price range. You will get much more for your money if you shop wisely. I can think of no product made in 2010 that i would classify as a "quality" machine in the 2k price class.

Well, it looks like I basically took your advice two weeks before you gave it! :thumbsup:

I ended up buying a used JD GT245. It has 500 hours on it, was garage stored and well maintained (except that something fell on it from the original owner's garage rafters and cracked the hood, but he did a nice job fixing it with epoxy). It came with a JD dump cart and also a spreader. I paid $2100 for this setup, and feel that I got a nice deal.

I'm a little surprised at your high opinions of the Ariens Sierra 1540H. The tranny wasn't servicable (designed for fluid changes, etc.), which I conclude makes the tranny (and therefore the whole tractor) somewhat disposable. Also, the stearing gearing was fairly low-grade (gearing was whimpy, with thin gears rather than the stocky gears that I see on my GT245 or even the new X300 that I almost purchased). And the deck didn't hold up very well either.

But you sound very knowledgable, so if you say it has a more robust tranny than the K46, I'll take your word for it. In fact, it was the bad reviews on this forum of the K46 that made me not buy the X300.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to many years of service from the GT245! The K71 tranny should hold up quite nicely, I'm sure! :cool:
 
   / LA135 vs. X300 #13  
Good Choice!
The Eaton 750 is a serviceable transmission. there are two drain plugs, one under each axle close to center. remove both plus to drain fluid. getting it back in is a little tricky. remove the hose from the reservoir and slowly fill leaving about 1/2 quart under capacity for air to escape. start tractor and run for a few minutes with the rear wheels off the ground and change direction from forward to reverse for about 5 minutes. with tractor running, top off until oil comes out the top and let run a couple more minutes to allow air to escape. then hook up reservoir hose and fill to line. use 10w30 or 14w40 synthetic oil. Anyway, it is a much stouter tranny than the K46 so you cane imagine if you had one of those under the same operating conditions...crap out in a year. JD even went one further for the L series, they spec'd out a light duty version of the K46 called the T40. Only JD uses this very weak tranny, no other manufacturer uses it. Craftsman actually uses a HD K46, a beefed up version.
The steering is notorious for getting sloppy on that Ariens chassis. simply replace the 30 dollar gear every 5 years or so if the sloppiness bothers you.
 
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#14  
Good Choice!
The Eaton 750 is a serviceable transmission. there are two drain plugs, one under each axle close to center. remove both plus to drain fluid. getting it back in is a little tricky. remove the hose from the reservoir and slowly fill leaving about 1/2 quart under capacity for air to escape. start tractor and run for a few minutes with the rear wheels off the ground and change direction from forward to reverse for about 5 minutes. with tractor running, top off until oil comes out the top and let run a couple more minutes to allow air to escape. then hook up reservoir hose and fill to line. use 10w30 or 14w40 synthetic oil. Anyway, it is a much stouter tranny than the K46 so you cane imagine if you had one of those under the same operating conditions...crap out in a year. JD even went one further for the L series, they spec'd out a light duty version of the K46 called the T40. Only JD uses this very weak tranny, no other manufacturer uses it. Craftsman actually uses a HD K46, a beefed up version.
The steering is notorious for getting sloppy on that Ariens chassis. simply replace the 30 dollar gear every 5 years or so if the sloppiness bothers you.

Well, the Ariens owner's manual certainly never led me to believe that the tranny was servicable. In fact, the owner's manual said the tranny was maintenance free. You say there was a reservoir; I never saw it, never knew it was there, etc. It certainly wasn't hanging off the rear of the tractor in plain site like on the JD LX and GT Series machines.

Anyway, the Ariens is history. I sold it to make room in my garage for the GT245. It's now up to its new owner to figure out how to get it running again. Between the tranny problem and the disintegrating mower deck, I didn't want to put another cent into it.

I've already drained and refilled the GT245's tranny with 5W50 synthetic, per Tuff Torq's recommendations over the JD Hy-Gard fluid.
 
   / LA135 vs. X300 #15  
I apologize, the 1540 Sierra used a Hydro-Gear 325 series tranny. still a much stouter tranny than the K46 and it is serviceable with an internal filter, drain plug and fill port. here is a link to the IPL;
http://www.doitbestparts.com/manuals/HYDROGEAR/325-0750.PDF

and here are the torque specs;

Output Torque

Intermittent 412 [559] lb-ft [N-m]

Continuous 218 [296] lb-ft [N-m]

Maximum Tire Diameter 23 [584] in [mm]

Weight on Tires 770 [349] lb [kg]

Axle Shaft Diameter 1.00 [25.4] in [mm]
 
   / LA135 vs. X300
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#16  
I apologize, the 1540 Sierra used a Hydro-Gear 325 series tranny. still a much stouter tranny than the K46 and it is serviceable with an internal filter, drain plug and fill port.

No need to apologize; the Ariens tractor is out of my life now. As long as you agree that the K71 tranny on the (new to me) GT245 is a stout tranny, and that the GT245 deck and steering are more robust than on the Ariens, then all is good.

I also like the GT245's process for removing the deck much more than the process for the Ariens, but that's just a minor quibble. Oh, and that the GT245 moves 2 mph faster than the Ariens will also be a time saver.

I'm really looking forward to putting this machine to work in the spring....
 
   / LA135 vs. X300 #17  
The K71 is in a whole different league, you will not break it
 

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