LA304FEL not level possible problem (pics)

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I just can up from the shop and snapped a few pics. I found 6bolts loose on the sub frame. three on each side. My original complaint was that the right side of the loader sat higher than the left. these pics and bolt holes agree with why the bucket is not level. Like others have said before and inch time 6feet is a lot. I don't think these were tight from the get go it kinda irritates me but, in the same token I should have gone over the bolts with a torque wrench before i started using it. I will try and caption the pics as best as possible.
right side of tractor is from the drivers seat.

right side top hole sub frame is raised hitting bottom of bolt. indicating right side is higher than the left. this is the fith pic down.

the pic where the bolt is removed and all the metal shavings are is the left side of the tractor. the side that is lower than the right.

hope the good news is that the loader arms are not bent as a result of all this.

My thoughts for righting this wrong is to mount the loader and place the tractor on a level surface then loosen bolt and apply down force with the bucket. hoping there is enough slop in the holes to get everything back in square. then tighten to factory specs with a torque wrench..


Im open to suggestions on fixes and what to do.
 

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   / LA304FEL not level possible problem (pics) #2  
I'd run a tap through those threaded holes to clean them up, unless you're sure all those chips are from the bolts and you can just blow them out. I think your approach is right.
I think I'll go out and check my loader bolts...
 
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I think I do need to tap the holes again however finding a 17mm tap might be hard to do. I have a tool supplier at work perhaps he will have one on hand.
Getting back to the loose bolts has anyone else ever had this problem>?

I was thinking last night should I try and straighten things with a bottle jack with the loader off and the loader bolts loose? thought this method maybe more acurate.
 
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I can't tell from the the picture but are the threads messed up all the way to the depth that the bolt will go in after you get everything cleaned up? I ask because I wonder if it was cross threaded when they mounted the loader.

Unless I'm looking at it wrong the bracket needs to come down so loosing the the others might do the trick.

Makes me want to check ours.
 
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The bolt on the left of the tractor is crossed and more than likely done with and impact at the dealer. I could see the front of the hole is damaged but the thread looked good deeper in the hole :( Im going to try and find a tap and perhaps some new bolts if needed. I hope only the one bolt is crossed I havent checked the rest yet. the side that is high is the right side and thats the side that is high when the loader is on as well. I feel rather sure that the out of level is just a result of the sub frame being loose. and shifted. When I first put my rachet on the bolt i was amazed how loose it was!!! then to find all 6 I couldnt belive it!! The front bolts which are 18 or 19mm were tighter still not as tight as i would have expected though..
 
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Isn't this a new b2320? Let the selling dealer fix this. Rather replace it.
 
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Isn't this a new b2320? Let the selling dealer fix this. Rather replace it.

I would like to do that however that is one of the draw backs I was afraid of by buying out of state. I could contact them but what can they do for me they are 6 hours away. maybe send me new bolts>?
 
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or by replace it do you mean the whole loader?
 
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The loader manual calls for m12 by 1.75 pitch bolts however. the guide sheet in the back of the FEL manual says the bolt I pulled out of the hole is a m10 by 40mm long. (not sure of the pitch.) I pulled a few more bolts last night and discovered though not all the threads are crossed as bad as the one in the pics in my earlier post. The top of the thread pitch on the bolts are all pressed down. This indicates to me that the wrong thread pitch has been used? :confused:
these bolts go directly into the clutch housing on the tractor. I could retap them ect. but im not sure that this should really be my problem. Dealer used the worng bolts.... The tractor was bought out of state and is still under a year old. I have KTAC insurance also.
Im going to go to the fastener store and check to make sure that bolt is indeed the wrong size.

I then need to figure out what to do next.
any sugestions would be apperciated.

thanks guys
 
   / LA304FEL not level possible problem (pics) #10  
Yes, have them replace it. They should replace the whole
kit and kabutol. That is somewhat extreme, but those bolts
have to be tight to hold the loader frame inplace. I would speak with
selling dealer and see what there solution would be.
Good luck.
 

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