Largest Diesel in world?

   / Largest Diesel in world? #11  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I would hate to be near by if it threw a rod! )</font>

I think 'launched a rod' would be the appropriate termanology.

Cliff
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #12  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I would hate to be near by if it threw a rod! )</font>

I think 'launched a rod' would be the appropriate termanology.

Cliff
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #13  
I particularly like the 5.5mil lb ft tq at 102rpm..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #14  
I particularly like the 5.5mil lb ft tq at 102rpm..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #15  
I'll try to answer some of the questions mentioned above. My background is in tankers and these really big engines are used in container ships, so I don't have specific numbers nor do I have my design manuals close at hand.

Oil Changes - Oil changes are rare, though becoming more frequent as technology improves. These engines burn oil at a predictable rate - it's contracted when you buy one. (The newer engines burn less oil.) As a result they are regularly topped up and the oil is designed so that these top-ups are sufficient to replenish the additive package. The oil is also heavily filtered, centrifuged and dried. It is also sampled, usually monthly, to check for impurities (metal, water, etc.) so that problems can be detected and repaired. Finally there are often up to three separate oil systems, each running a different oil. The crankcase charge, which cools the bearings and other sliding parts. Cylinder oil is injected directly onto the liner walls to lubricate the piston and rings - most of this is burned. Finally some ships have a dedicated cam shaft lube supply as the cams are highly stressed and it pays to keep the oil extremely clean and often heavily supplemented (Royal Purple Synerlec works great!).

In the old days ships were built around the engine rooms as steam plants took a while to build. Now the engines are factory built and dropped into the engine room before the deck goes on. Conveniently the engine factories are usually colocated with the large Asian shipyards that build the big box boats.
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #16  
I'll try to answer some of the questions mentioned above. My background is in tankers and these really big engines are used in container ships, so I don't have specific numbers nor do I have my design manuals close at hand.

Oil Changes - Oil changes are rare, though becoming more frequent as technology improves. These engines burn oil at a predictable rate - it's contracted when you buy one. (The newer engines burn less oil.) As a result they are regularly topped up and the oil is designed so that these top-ups are sufficient to replenish the additive package. The oil is also heavily filtered, centrifuged and dried. It is also sampled, usually monthly, to check for impurities (metal, water, etc.) so that problems can be detected and repaired. Finally there are often up to three separate oil systems, each running a different oil. The crankcase charge, which cools the bearings and other sliding parts. Cylinder oil is injected directly onto the liner walls to lubricate the piston and rings - most of this is burned. Finally some ships have a dedicated cam shaft lube supply as the cams are highly stressed and it pays to keep the oil extremely clean and often heavily supplemented (Royal Purple Synerlec works great!).

In the old days ships were built around the engine rooms as steam plants took a while to build. Now the engines are factory built and dropped into the engine room before the deck goes on. Conveniently the engine factories are usually colocated with the large Asian shipyards that build the big box boats.
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #17  
Just to clarify - the burn and supplement statement is really more true with large medium speeds.

The large slow speeds in the article either burn oil completely - the cylinder oil - leaving only a sludge in the stuffing boxes - or don't burn oil at all - the cam and crankcase oils. As the combustion area is completely segregated from the crank, the crank oil stays very clean (unless connected to the cam system). The cam oil is often contaminated with fuel (really low grade asphalt, or worse) and does need to be regulalrly changed and/or heavily filtered to keep it clean.
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #18  
Just to clarify - the burn and supplement statement is really more true with large medium speeds.

The large slow speeds in the article either burn oil completely - the cylinder oil - leaving only a sludge in the stuffing boxes - or don't burn oil at all - the cam and crankcase oils. As the combustion area is completely segregated from the crank, the crank oil stays very clean (unless connected to the cam system). The cam oil is often contaminated with fuel (really low grade asphalt, or worse) and does need to be regulalrly changed and/or heavily filtered to keep it clean.
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #19  
Very interesting, thanks MarEng. I heard a piece on NPR the other day about oil and polution. They mentioned the big ships run on a very low grade of diesel called bunker oil. Apparently, it results in very high emissions. A port in the US somewhere was talking about putting emission standards in place that would force the shipping companies to improve their polutants. They must be a large port as the story sounded like they would be successful.

Thanks again for the insights /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Largest Diesel in world? #20  
Very interesting, thanks MarEng. I heard a piece on NPR the other day about oil and polution. They mentioned the big ships run on a very low grade of diesel called bunker oil. Apparently, it results in very high emissions. A port in the US somewhere was talking about putting emission standards in place that would force the shipping companies to improve their polutants. They must be a large port as the story sounded like they would be successful.

Thanks again for the insights /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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