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I grew up on an oxbow lake, about a mile long and a hundred yards wide. There is a very high bank on the outside bend of what used to be a river bank. About 90' up. All the water pressure in that high bank pushes down and springs pop up in the lake all along that high bank. Especially after heavy rains and heavy snow melts. The ice can be a foot thick and 5' away from you it's paper thin because of the stream of 50 something degree ground water coming up from 20' down. Some places you can see it swirling the water in the holes. In summer, swimming along in 80-85 degree water you can feel the 50 degree ground water blasting up. Gives you the shrinks. :laughing:

And the springs move around a lot. Sometimes they come out of the bank right at the water's edge. One winter it was about 0F, snow cover everywhere on January 1st, and right where the high bank meets the water, there's about 1 foot of mud about a hundred feet long and 50 robins pecking away. That's the earliest I've ever seen robins around here.

Anyhow, best to drill a lot of test holes. A lot of guys carry a heavy spud bar and whack the ice three times in front of them as then go along. If the spud bar pokes through, turn around and go back.

I carry a whistle and ice picks around my neck at all times when on the ice. I'm thinking about getting an ice fishing jacket. They keep you warm, and they float! Makes it much easier to self rescue.

I was walking a stream one day looking for a beaver house, carrying my chisel as you said and testing the ice before every step. After about a mile and a half of solid ice I guess that I got complacent... so it was a complete surprise when the chisel went through, with me right behind it. Luckily the water was only to my waist, but it was still a cold miserable walk back to the truck.
 
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#43  
I was walking a stream one day looking for a beaver house, carrying my chisel as you said and testing the ice before every step. After about a mile and a half of solid ice I guess that I got complacent... so it was a complete surprise when the chisel went through, with me right behind it. Luckily the water was only to my waist, but it was still a cold miserable walk back to the truck.

Oh, that sounds cold.... :eek:
 
/ Last Ice... #44  
I wouldn't want to live in a place that doesn't have those dramatic shifts in season.

We're good for a one or two dumpings a year that reminds me of the white stuff.

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Thing I love about western NC is you actually do get cold weather for two or three months, BUT the snow dumpings normally only last a couple of weeks, and it does keep reminding me that I don't really miss it;)
 
/ Last Ice... #45  
Ah, that explains the bumps. Herons are smooth.

I've never seen eagle footprints. There's a nesting pair in a local county park.

You can see why I'd be confused...
Great-Blue-Heron Tracks

Oh, Maybe I should add that we'd "guess" its an eagle since we've got lots of them here and they'd be in the shove ice looking for carrion.

Let me know is you folks have had enough snow an ice photos. Do you folks know why this happens as seen in this one?
 

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Oh, Maybe I should add that we'd "guess" its an eagle since we've got lots of them here and they'd be in the shove ice looking for carrion.

Let me know is you folks have had enough snow an ice photos. Do you folks know why this happens as seen in this one?

I've seen that on metal roofs before. Kinda neat. I like seeing how far down it will go before it either breaks off or the sun melts it.
 
/ Last Ice... #47  
Oh, Maybe I should add that we'd "guess" its an eagle since we've got lots of them here and they'd be in the shove ice looking for carrion.

Let me know is you folks have had enough snow an ice photos. Do you folks know why this happens as seen in this one?

I think the tin, being metal and not insulated underneath, heats up faster than the ice. The ice has to absorb a certain amount of heat before it melts; the tin heats up immediately, melts a thin layer of ice next to it, and the snow simply slides down on the thin layer of melt.
 
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How the snow "moves down" as seen in that photo, is exactly the same thing glaciers do. That is, slowing flowing down hill. In the photo of our garage, you can see much snow is gone over the edge of the roof and seemingly spilling over its end. This did not start out that way, but over many days, slowing "flowed" in the direction of the least resistance. In this case it over the end of the our garage. We see this all the time on edges, sometimes reaching 4+ft.
 

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/ Last Ice... #49  
Dunno about ice, but 4-6 feet of snow. Going to be snowmobiling for awhile. Last year end of April was best, snow settled. Riding in 50 degree weathers. All the snow makes for slush on ice, and can insulate so not as much ice.
 
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In the next couple days our ground frost will be gone. Then the frantic Spring nesting/birthing season will begin. I'm ready for Spring. Has been a hectic Winter.
 
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The stuff is going away, but still enough ice almost everywhere to break your neck. We were always in the snowbelt, but I would think, this is another BUST year (another of many) for the snowmobilers around here.
 
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The stuff is going away, but still enough ice almost everywhere to break your neck. We were always in the snowbelt, but I would think, this is another BUST year (another of many) for the snowmobilers around here.

Many people in states it is better than normal. Best in years for many. I know someone who went riding in ON. He said where he was it was to much. But also depends on where you are to the Lake probably.

I am expecting to be riding until end of April. Though we got a warm stretch. But cold at night, and snow keeps itself cold. So who knows.
 
/ Last Ice... #53  
It's been a really good year for snowsledders here. Now the weather is just starting to turn, we've had some warm sunny days to soften the snow while temps drop to the teens at night; in other words, perfect early spring weather. All week I've been hearing about rain on Friday, the radio guys are really hyping it up. All day today I heard about the heavy rain tonight and tomorrow... 1/4 of an inch. Huh? :confused:
 
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It's been a really good year for snowsledders here. Now the weather is just starting to turn, we've had some warm sunny days to soften the snow while temps drop to the teens at night; in other words, perfect early spring weather. d:

That can create some great riding in the bush.


Last year it never warmed up until spring. So in the woods the snow had no bottom. This year it came late. But 4-6' depending where you are to the lake. I had 4' on my roof to shovel. Came at once, so didn't get chance to slide down. Slid once or twice earlier. That was rough. Haven't shoveled a roof since my 20s.
 
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A friend got a trail permit, for the first time maybe ever. He ha been really hard pressed to get his use out of it, plus the license and insurance.
 
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A friend got a trail permit, for the first time maybe ever. He ha been really hard pressed to get his use out of it, plus the license and insurance.

Ya insurance is insane up there. Hard to justify owning much.

Still surprised lack of snow this year. Most areas are way above average, though a late start. But snow can be very regional.

Many people in US don't realize how far south some part of ON are. I don't know how far south you are. But even southern WI has had lots of riding. North and south shore of Lake Superior have quite a bit. 300" in some areas by me. I got around 4-5 feet on the ground. But this is typical for me. Again it just came late, and so quicker.
 
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Guessing trail permit is insane up there too.
 
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I think anything spent on recreational stuff is insane.
 
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I think anything spent on recreational stuff is insane.

Ya but you guys are expensive for everything. As for insurarance I believe it is because you have to carry so much insurance, . But everything is expensive up there. I can't say if others things are cheaper to offset.


As far as recreational spending. Yes and no. In US not such a big deal. Insurance is cheap on old stuff. Discount on second vehicles.

Cracks me up the price of skidoos, in Canada. I don't know how people up there afford recreational vehicles, or anything the basics. Funny talking to people up in the oil fields, about how our gas is cheaper.
 
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Lake that had 8" of solid ice Monday is now all open water.

I saw two turtles on a log with two ducks on another lake today. And an egg in a nest today, too. Robin.
 

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