Legal Carry ???

[Reg]

I keep a pistol in my truck. I have done this for many years and have a permit from Alabama to do it legally. We got an email at work a few weeks ago stating my companies policy on alcohol, drugs and firearms. We are not to have any of these on company property and they were going to start a random search. From trucks coming in, to lockers and employee parking. It mentioned using our guard or bringing in local police with a dog. I'm not aware of any problems that have come up recently for them to send this to us. Well there are the few that gather around after our shift and have a couple beers, but they have done that the thirteen years I have worked at the plant. I drive 20 miles at 5:00 a.m. and I feel safer with my gun. What is a man to do? JC

Whats a MAN to do ?
Simple;
Grow up,
don't be afraid of the dark (at 5 a.m.).
If the route to work is THAT scary find another job.

REMEMBER that if confronted and you pull a weapon - and then the confrontOR pulls a weapon, escalation has started, one idiot will shoot and be in trouble, the other idiot might die.
Echoes of the Bernie Somebody in the NY subway incident.

 

[BillyP]

Whats a MAN to do ?
Simple;
Grow up,
Texas).
If the route to work is THAT scary find another job.

REMEMBER that if confronted and you pull a weapon - and then the confrontOR pulls a weapon, escalation has started, one idiot will shoot and be in trouble, the other idiot might die.
Echoes of the Bernie Somebody in the NY subway incident.

Grow up.

What exactly does that mean?

If the route to work is THAT scary find another job.

Sometimes you have no clue how scary getting to work can be?

REMEMBER that if confronted and you pull a weapon - and then the confrontOR pulls a weapon, escalation has started, one idiot will shoot and be in trouble, the other idiot might die.

Which would you rather be, the confrontor with a gun or the confrontee without?

 

[SnowRidge]

Whats a MAN to do ?
Simple;
Grow up,
don't be afraid of the dark (at 5 a.m.).
If the route to work is THAT scary find another job.

REMEMBER that if confronted and you pull a weapon - and then the confrontOR pulls a weapon, escalation has started, one idiot will shoot and be in trouble, the other idiot might die.
Echoes of the Bernie Somebody in the NY subway incident.

Bernhard Goetz was carrying illegaly, and he deliberately tried to shoot one of the men who accosted him after he was already down. Goetz's gun was empty, but that action was one of several that helped convict him.

I don't think the Goetz incident is directly relevant to someone carrying legally who tries to avoid a confrontation, but is forced into action by an armed attacker.

Besides, the OP lives in Alabama, not New York City.

 

[RollTideRam]

Whats a MAN to do ?
Simple;
Grow up,
don't be afraid of the dark (at 5 a.m.).
If the route to work is THAT scary find another job.

REMEMBER that if confronted and you pull a weapon - and then the confrontOR pulls a weapon, escalation has started, one idiot will shoot and be in trouble, the other idiot might die.
Echoes of the Bernie Somebody in the NY subway incident.

I'm not really scared of the dark, I am a little clumsy and trip while walking around my house in the dark. I guess I could carry a light for crossing the ditch and railroad tracks with my lunchbox and cup of coffee. Maybe I should quit my job and go to school where I would be safe from people with guns.
I don't want to be the one that shows up at a gunfight with a pocket knife. That would be the idiot. JC

 

[kennyd]

I work in an industrial park with many businesses.

I think that is an important distinction to this discussion. In the case I referenced earlier, the parking lot was the property of the employer. If your employer is renting/leasing space, then I do not think they could search your vehicle because it's not their property-it's the property of the management's property.

 

[kenmac]

Worked for a place once. To park on their property you had to sign a release that stated that ,if your were parked on their property etc, that you agree to random search of your vehicle .Just like random drug test. You sign a paper at the time of employement to summit to random drug test . Not much you can do if they make it company policy to random vehicle search if you park on their property

 

[RonMar]

Wether they rent or own the property that the business is on makes no difference. As long as they pay the rent, it is their property, just like your rented house or apartment is considered your private property. They are free to impose their company policy as they see fit. If it is a condition of employment, well that is the way it is. It is like a department store, that in an attempt to curb shoplifting, collects your backpack as you enter the store. Don't want to give them you backpack to hold while you shop? Don't bring it along, or go shop somewhere else.

 

[jimg]

I remember my brother telling me about taking his gun to work. He used to work on a military base (Redstone Arsenal). He talked to a MP one afternoon about it. They were also subject to being searched, but the MP told him if his pistol was in a locked box (even the Ruger box it came in) he could not make my brother open it. I wonder how that would fly? I could lock it up when I get to work, and slide it under the back seat of my truck. Then hide the key. JC

Thats an interesting ploy! If the dog detects something then youve become an instant suspect and probably already fired. I think the probability would go way up if you refused to let them look...and theyd almost certainly want the box unlocked. The limitations on the rent-a-cop & his dog arent the same as LE.

Its sad but I think you have little recourse BUT you NEED to talk w/ someone locally and understand AL law. I suspect the local gun rights group has a good bit of info on this subject.

Pls let us know how this turns out. OK?

All that said I knew a couple guys who, despite co rules, carried anyway. There were no random checks or that sort of thing but if you got caught you were out the door in a big hurry. Their logic was to take care of their own safety needs (b/c the co sure wasnt) and be alive another day to get a new job.

 

[SnowRidge]

RollTideRam, does your county or city have volunteer reserve officers? I know a couple of guys who have gone that route, in part because they felt they would be better off carrying as LE.

Just a thought.

 

[lrunge]

As previously stated it varies by state. Ky had a ruling on this and stated the employer may restrict carrying in the building but could not restrict a CCW licensed person from having a weapon in his vehicle on company property.

OAG 98 - 12

"Employers may not prohibit duly licensed employees from keeping concealed deadly weapons in personally owned vehicles parked on employer痴 premises."

They also restrict local governments from passing laws that conflict with the State Statutes for CCW as Louisville was trying to pass.