Let me ask the question a different way..........

[Steve_Miller]

I understand a lot of things about business (or at least I think I do) which from my point of view is a lot but to a businessman as yourself may be very little in the big picture. I can only guess as to what Kioti's business concern's are. Maybe being new to the large U.S. market they are hesitent on listing an across the country price list as transportation costs are a fairly large factor in the pricing. If they have a small market share in the west but a larger one in the east where the warehouse is located then transportation costs are a smaller percentage of the tractor cost to the dealers lot. As an across the country suggested list price, it would play a role. This is one example in my mind that plays in the suggested list price scenario. If you compare Kioti to JD or Kubota or any other large maker, you would think they would have a suggested list price but "I" don't think they have enough info to establish that price at this time as they are not sure of what tractor sales will be like in the future or whether they do have enough data and the east is a bigger market and they should not have to subsidize the western pricing leading to regional pricing. Another two cents worth, is that four cents now that I have contributed?

Bob, Forgive me if I miss some of your points of view as most times I don't see them as you do.

Steve /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[DrewL]

There is a lot of good insight submitted. I understand freight, dealership costs, overhead, floorplans ect. I think someone answered my question which was, do dealers buy at the same price excluding freight? From what I have read the answer is yes. What they choose to sell for is another story and I understand that as well. There also is a dealer incentive to buy more units for a 4%+ - discount. Getting a dealer to admit to that is part of the fact finding mission. Heck, on another thread a guy in my area said he had to sign a "Power Buy" waiver after buying a ck30 which meant he pitted two dealers against each other and the "winning" dealer gave him his first service in a box. Again, imagine if I presented a "Power Sell" waiver? How do you think that would have gone? Now that's confidence in your dealer isn't it!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif