Then factor in that the people on the ground were hungry, tired, and scared, things could get ugly fast.
lets discuss preps for disasters
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Yeah. You see this in a lot of natural disaster news footage from around the world where the helicopters hover and just drop food out and the panicked crowds fight for it. If they landed, the crowd would overwhelm the crew and machine and a lot worse would happen.
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I imagine that ships would not come into port for the same reason.Yeah. You see this in a lot of natural disaster news footage from around the world where the helicopters hover and just drop food out and the panicked crowds fight for it. If they landed, the crowd would overwhelm the crew and machine and a lot worse would happen.
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I live in a county of 24,000 people and 600sq miles in size. There are 2 city police departments with about 3-4 officers each. Then the sheriffs office with 10-12 deputies and 4 state troopers assigned to county. Not uncommon to have a single city cop, a deputy and maybe a trooper on duty after midnight. Hate to think I had to depend on those 20+/- guys to take care of us all.
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Wow, a lot of good ideas and a bunch of jabber since I last checked. Just closed today on the property in the sticks and start the move...tomorrow! Keep the good ideas coming guys.
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They won't be going to the west coast ports as much in "normal" times anymore, either.....
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As we prepare for a possible hurricane hitting my area on Sunday, one thing I am finding is that so many people around me lack the basic intelligence to find and understand good weather information leading up to an event (I am talking about the week or 3-4 days before disaster hits, when we still have full/normal access to information). As a result, I think they go from an ignorant state to a panicked state, and that happens to late, too close to the event. So I would add awareness and intelligence to the list of important "prep".
I knew about the possibility of a storm 4+ days ago. Got some supplies yesterday and more today, as well as some extra fuel for cars/chainsaws and propane for my grill. Ran my diesel generator this evening to check everything out. Will gauge the overnight weather model runs in the morning and decide if I need another 55 gal of diesel on hand (have 100 gal right now). That leaves me about 3 more days to get my property and home in order in case the storm hits.
Compare that to friends/neighbors we talked to this afternoon -- they are just starting to be aware of the hurricane now. They have lost a lot of time, and now have to compete with all the other crazies for food at the store tomorrow. And they are hopelessly confused about weather models and hurricane tracks, and the statistics/probabilities/methods the NHC uses to put together their forecasted tracks. Right now their forecast is the result of much uncertainty and lack of agreement in the weather models, and doesn't represent a track as much as it represents an average guess. They explain all of this in their bulletin. But everyone is convinced the hurricane is headed right over us because if you just look at the track without understanding it, that's what you'd see. In reality the individual model tracks want to take it anywhere from far west to far east of here, and the average "track" is just going down the middle of the spaghetti. Weather doesn't obey averages like that, it's merely a graphical convenience to relay the information.
Funny thing, my wife's uncle, who lives about 14 miles from us, is also ahead of the game and already moving his tractor and other equipment to higher ground (he's in a flood-prone area). He's a captain on a local ferry boat, and would have been plugged into the situation well in advance because they get detailed weather reports before every shift, as a matter of procedure. I knew when we talked to him today that he would have his act together. I really respect that.
I knew about the possibility of a storm 4+ days ago. Got some supplies yesterday and more today, as well as some extra fuel for cars/chainsaws and propane for my grill. Ran my diesel generator this evening to check everything out. Will gauge the overnight weather model runs in the morning and decide if I need another 55 gal of diesel on hand (have 100 gal right now). That leaves me about 3 more days to get my property and home in order in case the storm hits.
Compare that to friends/neighbors we talked to this afternoon -- they are just starting to be aware of the hurricane now. They have lost a lot of time, and now have to compete with all the other crazies for food at the store tomorrow. And they are hopelessly confused about weather models and hurricane tracks, and the statistics/probabilities/methods the NHC uses to put together their forecasted tracks. Right now their forecast is the result of much uncertainty and lack of agreement in the weather models, and doesn't represent a track as much as it represents an average guess. They explain all of this in their bulletin. But everyone is convinced the hurricane is headed right over us because if you just look at the track without understanding it, that's what you'd see. In reality the individual model tracks want to take it anywhere from far west to far east of here, and the average "track" is just going down the middle of the spaghetti. Weather doesn't obey averages like that, it's merely a graphical convenience to relay the information.
Funny thing, my wife's uncle, who lives about 14 miles from us, is also ahead of the game and already moving his tractor and other equipment to higher ground (he's in a flood-prone area). He's a captain on a local ferry boat, and would have been plugged into the situation well in advance because they get detailed weather reports before every shift, as a matter of procedure. I knew when we talked to him today that he would have his act together. I really respect that.
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I think he basically lives in the city and Boston is his reference.
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A little off the subject but....
I remember reading several years ago about a hurricane approaching Galveston Texas. So the story went the local officials ordered a full evacuation. The Sherriff's office sent deputies around door to door to make sure everybody got the word and started on the road. If I remember correctly abut a quarter of the population, mostly older, said they would stay and take care of their property. Said they had warnings all the time but nothing ever happened. Deputies would go back to their car and make a radio call with the address. About an hour later another officer in a slightly different uniform would knock on the reluctant one's door. The conversation would go something like this. "Officer, I told that other deputy that there was nothing to worry about and I'm not leaving. You are wasting your time talking to me. go bother somebody else".
The new officer would reply that he wasn't from the sheriff's office but from the coroner's office and that he wasn't there to talk. "I'm just her to make a dental impression", he would say as he took out a kit with his tools. "It makes it much easier to identify the bodies after the hurricane".
They had nearly 100% evacuation.
That's all I remember about the story. Don't remember the dates or anything else or know if it really happened.
But it could and it was funny.
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I remember reading several years ago about a hurricane approaching Galveston Texas. So the story went the local officials ordered a full evacuation. The Sherriff's office sent deputies around door to door to make sure everybody got the word and started on the road. If I remember correctly abut a quarter of the population, mostly older, said they would stay and take care of their property. Said they had warnings all the time but nothing ever happened. Deputies would go back to their car and make a radio call with the address. About an hour later another officer in a slightly different uniform would knock on the reluctant one's door. The conversation would go something like this. "Officer, I told that other deputy that there was nothing to worry about and I'm not leaving. You are wasting your time talking to me. go bother somebody else".
The new officer would reply that he wasn't from the sheriff's office but from the coroner's office and that he wasn't there to talk. "I'm just her to make a dental impression", he would say as he took out a kit with his tools. "It makes it much easier to identify the bodies after the hurricane".
They had nearly 100% evacuation.
That's all I remember about the story. Don't remember the dates or anything else or know if it really happened.
But it could and it was funny.
RSKY
I don't think anyone has addressed prescriptions for medical issues (if they have any). It looks to me that they way they're set up right now, about the most anyone would have on hand would be a 30 or 90 day supply. If someone gets refills on a 30 day basis and are near the end of their supply when things go down, things could get bad. No cash to get a refill, if refills were available, ATMs/credit cards won't work.
