Let's help this fellow get the right info

[jinman]

Let\'s help this fellow get the right info

There is a poster in the Case-IH forum who has received price quotes on a new tractor and I think something is not right about his prices. He is saying his quote for a DX40 with LX116 loader is under $19,250 and a DX45 with loader for $21,000. I don't think that is possible. I think there is something he is missing because he is new to these tractors. The DX40 is the same as the TC40DA with 16LA. I don't think there is any way to get that tractor new for $19,250.

I just think this fellow is mistaken about something, but I seem to be the only one who is speaking up to say something isn't right. If you are interested, how about checking out his post and giving him your opinion whether you agree with me or not. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DX40 Pricing

 

[Soundguy]

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I priced a tc45 or a tc48da ( can't remember which ) about 2 months ago, when I bought my 7610s and they were low 20's.. like 22 or 24. That dealer also had mcormicks and mahindra's on the lot.. an equivalant model on those other two were in the 18k range... ( this was without loader.. but a larger tractor.. ).

Any possibility the price would be correct? I havn't priced a 40.. what have you seen them going for?

Soundguy

 

[Stonefox]

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I got my 2003 TC40D hydrostatic drive , 16LA loader, R4's this past March. It was new with 0.4 hours on it for $1995. It was from a last years model closeout sale.
Stonefox

 

[froggy]

Re: Let\'s help this fellow get the right info

Jim,

I agree with you and have posted some numbers for him in the Case forum.

froggy

 

[jinman]

Re: Let\'s help this fellow get the right info

Thanks, Froggy. I have no interest in doing anything but getting this guy the correct info. He said he was a newbie and if someone is feeding him a line, he needs to know it.

Soundguy, what I've been seeing is about $23k for a TC40DA with loader and $24.5k for a TC45DA with loader. I wouldn't be surprised to see plus or minus $500 from those prices due to some dealer incentive.

Stonefox, as a left-over, your tractor must have been sold to you at near dealer's cost ($19,950?). You got a great, great deal. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I don't think you'd expect to find a brand new TC40DA and loader for $700 less. I surely don't think the Farmall DX40 would ever be sold for those prices either.

 

[DVerbarg]

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I haven't priced these tractors in two years but did find, two years ago, a dealer that sold a school a TC40D/SS, 914A MMM (84"), 17LA, 1 or 2 rear remotes and a cab for just under $25k. This was not the dealer I bought from (the dealer I bought from went out of business about a year after my purchase) but a dealer I ahve been going to for parts and service for the last three years.

Don't know how they did it but that is the price they told me. Questioned them to be sure and told them what I had paid for just a TC40D/SS with the 17LA and their only comment was that they would be happy to have my business.

 

[jinman]

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Well, back in Jan. of 2001, I bought a TC45D, 16LA, and two remotes for $22,000. I was very happy with that price even though I ended up paying higher interest than most do now. If you add in 3% increase in price and another 3% for steel surcharge, you end up around $23,500 for that same tractor today. I think you are also going to pay extra to support the 0% interest too. You don't see it, but nobody I know gives away money. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Anyhow, I don't think any of us would expect to find a new 2004 TC40DA with 16LA for under $20,000. A DX40 with LX116 loader for $19,250? ...I wanna see the sales slip. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[twabscs]

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I agree with Jinman, and this was recently posted over on the JD board by Zip669...

"My other price is a new holland TC45DA, supersteer, 16la loader,grill guard, r4's 2mid & 2 rear scvs. sale price is $26200."

I paid $22,500 for my TC40D (16LA, QA, 2 remotes, R4s, etc.) back in April of 2003. Probably paid a bit too much, but if I could get one today for 19.2, I grab it just for a spare /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[dliston]

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Paid $20,800 for my TC40DA with 16LA - new 2004 model in July. Don't think it is probably right to put up dealer names, but if someone wants to know, they can PM me...

Doug

 

[Soundguy]

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Sounds like some dealers are putting them out at cost then.. So the 19k price for an 04' while ultra low seems like it could be possible.. especially id 2005's are ont he lot now. ( demo? bought and returned unit? )

Soundguy

 

[spencer200]

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Most likely those dealers have one they need to sell or pay for. I have a TC40DA with 16LA I have to pay for this month myself and I would gladly blow it out the door for what I got in the tractor not even getting my actual set up cost and that would be 19855.00 So it is possible that this guy got that kind of a price if the dealer had to get rid of one.

 

[markie61]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Most likely those dealers have one they need to sell or pay for.)</font>

Sounds like "floor planning." I used to floor-plan guitars from Taylor and Fender when I had a music store. If they weren't sold by the time the contract was up, I was always ready to deal on them.

Mark

 

[zipp669]

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TC45da -$23735 with supersteer & hydro
17la loader-$2880 not 16, 17 complies with supersteer
r4 tires-$1879
72" bucket-$582
2 rear scv's-$466
quick attatch 4 loader-$352
grill guard-190

total-$30089
factory discounts-$4383
bal-$25706
freight-$500
sale price-$25206

about 14.5% factory discounts

 

[jinman]

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Now, this is really wacky, but I'm copying a quote from Yarbro's post in the Case-IH forum.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You guys must be from Missouri. The quotes I have received on the DX40 from two different dealers in Oklahoma are $20,350 and $19,250. I went to the dealership (which by the way handled New Holland also) and drove the tractors. Yes, the DX40 4wd models. By the way the NH comparable tractor was HIGHER in price than the Case units.

Another dealer who did not have the units in stock said he would order one for $21,000 but it would be 6 weeks to 2 months before he could deliver it. The same dealer who quoted the DX40 at $19,250 quoted the DX45 at $21,000. And, yes, they are the HST models.
)</font>

He is saying he got these quotes from two separate dealers and one dealer offered to order him a tractor at $21,000 (didn't say which tractor). None of these sound like they are tractors they have to get rid of. Maybe it's the old joke:

We'll sell all our tractors at a loss and make it up in volume. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Spencer200, I think you just made an offer someone should really be interested in. I bet you get a few PMs about that "at cost" deal you said you would make. If I were looking for a tractor, I'd be "right there" on a deal like that. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[zipp669]

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From my research here latley, I was told that the Case will be cheaper than the new holland. By the case & nh dealers & they are not the same people!
Case does not offer supersteer, nor the sensitrac 4wd.
If you just bought the NH TC45D, which is no supersteer nor sensitrac, also minus hydo, this is $4000 less.
Taking my quote from before on an earlier post. Then deducting all the extras that some wont want or think about.
this gives you a TC45d for $20750, also take off so much for r4 tires and the shipping quote I gave was just to cover as they said they will only charge for actual shipping as when they are audited they will have to explain why they did not charge actual costs for shipping.

MY ramblings aside< I believe you can get into a TC45d for $20000 or less.\
thoughts

zipp

 

[jinman]

Re: Let\'s help this fellow get the right info

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( MY ramblings aside< I believe you can get into a TC45d for $20000 or less.\
thoughts
)</font>

Zipp, you have your models mixed up. The "D" in TC45DA means "deluxe" and is a hydrostatic transmission. Without the hydrostatic transmission, the model is TC45A. That corresponds to the Farmall D45. The DX45 is always with a hydrostatic transmission.

Having said that, you and I are in complete agreement. My belief is that the gent in the Case-IH forum was being quoted a non-deluxe model tractor. He was saying he could get a deluxe tractor for those prices. That's what I don't believe, especially a competely new tractor and from his choice of dealers.

Also, I'm not saying it isn't true. I'm saying I won't completely believe it until I see a copy the sales slip. If this fellow gets a deluxe tractor and loader for that price, I'm going to be really shocked. It will be the best deal I've ever heard of on the DX40 or DX45. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[zipp669]

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Yes I do have my models mixed up. Sorry, I have been looking at so much literature lately that I just made a blunder>