Loader Leveling loader left to right?

   / Leveling loader left to right?
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#21  
I would think it is the subframe connection or you've bent it. But I know I have been using my FEL HEAVILY over the last few months. I can see that the subframe connection has slipped approximately 1/8" from original location by the look of the bolts and washers. If I needed it perfectly square or was through with tree pulling, I'd do this exactly. I know that the 1/8" at the frame is translating to much more 15' out at the bucket corner.

My subframe connection doesn't really have an opportunity for adjustment - it's all carriage bolts (so the bolt location is fixed). For giggles I loosened everything, moved it to level and tightened everything but it had no effect.
 
   / Leveling loader left to right? #22  
At absolute full extension, they are both the same length. That said, when I raise the bucket to full extension there is (for lack of a better term) a "natural full extension" and a "forced full extension".

At natural full extension you can tell both sides are operating together and at the same rate, one cylinder is fully extended, the other is about a 1/2" short. If you continue on for that last millimeter to get to "forced full extension" one side stays motionless (already at full extension) the short side continues on for a half inch and the arms "flex" to accommodate it... thus why I'm calling it forced full extension.

At the natural full extension point, the right side arm is actually "loose" in the sense that it has NO CONTACT with the quick release pin. You can actually slide the arm left to right and it will move an eight of an inch within the arm mounts. The left side remains in full contact with the quick release pin the entire cycle.

I took some video but I need to edit it down and get it uploaded somewhere. It's difficult to explain, easier to see.

So your cylinders are not the problem. Frame is either bent or the mounting is tweeked.

I suggest loosing up all the bolts, putting 2 Cinder block under the bucket, apply just a bit of down pressure, and tighten everything up.
 
   / Leveling loader left to right? #23  
Measure the distance from the frame pivots to the end of the bucket arms. They should be equal, if so then sub frame mounting is the culprit.
AS I said earlier as little as 1/8" at the sub frame pivot point could result in 3-4" deviation at FEL bucket. (been there done that)
Any loose attachment bolt will cause a bolt hole to rapidly wear out oval.

I did once see a tractor that had a bent frame arm but for that to happen the driver rammed a concrete curb at a reasonably high speed.
 
   / Leveling loader left to right? #24  
First, Remove the loader from the tractor. Second, measure from the bucket pivot pin to the lift arm pivot pin on both sides. Third, Measure the distance between the upper loader arms at the rear(next to the pivot pin) and at the front(just before the frame doublers where the loader bends down). Fourth, Measure Diagonally between the same points in step 3. Fifth, check the alignment of the lift arm pivots(see if you could put one pin through where the the pivot pins are now). All of those measurements should be within 1/4", if they are then you have bent mounts or attachment, if not then you have a bent loader.
 

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