Lift too stiff

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Before you try it Duane, let me tell you that the castellated nut is V-E-R-Y hard to get at. The cotter key is almost impossible to remove without taking the right rear wheel off. My recommendation is, don't bother. I don't think I gained very much by loosening it 1/4 turn. As a matter of fact, I doubt it is any different after repeated use. Save yourself some trouble and don't bother would be my recommendation. I really think that there are so many pivot points in the control arm that you will only gain leverage by lengthening the control arm. Then, it will be in the way. On this one, I've just decided to live with it.

JimI
 
   / Lift too stiff #12  
What puzzles me Jim is that you are trying to do such fine adjustments with the position control. I assume you must be refering to a box scraper. The way I do all my fine control is via the top cylinder on a box scraper. Getting the position control to a correct position is to me, far less important then getting the blade angle correct. This is primarily due to the fact that the ground is always changing and what was once a perfect ground position is now incorrect. Rat...
 
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Well RAT, this time you guessed wrong. The most irritating thing I have experienced is using a boom pole. With it, any movement of the 3pth is magnified by the length of the pole. Instead of a smooth lift to a feathered position, I ended up jerking and cussin' because I felt like a teenager trying to learn to drive a standard shift tranny. I didn't have the FEL on the tractor (another story entirely) and was unloading a new rotary cutter from a trailer for a neighbor. We got it done just fine, but it would have been much nicer to feather the load down to the ground instread of dropping it the last couple of inches because of the sticky lift. I know what you mean about the boxblade, very true. In this case and I suspect in some other future applications, I wished for much smoother action. I don't think that I'm "too far out there" to feel like I should have better control./w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

JimI
 
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JimI - I'd have to say the handle on my 45D is a little on the snug side too. I am hoping it loosens up a little with more use. When I do fine 3pt work I usually grab the lever with my fingers & put the heel of my hand on the console & sort of roll my hand back or forward. It sort of turns the hand & arm into a more easily controlable lever with the heel of the hand being a fulcrum. Another trick is to again plant the heal of your hand on the console & then squeeze the lever back to your hand. That also seems to work well. I use these methods pretty regularly because even if the lever was easy to move, it is still easy to accidentally overcompensate as your bouncing along if you don't have an anchor point.

Troy
 
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Jim, my International is very stiff as well. My mower weighs about 1500lbs and when I drop it, its pretty jerky as I ease it down. I can loosen the nut and make it smoother, I can also control the rate of decent and lift via a hydraulic valve, can't you? I know the 2120 had a knurled knob that allowed for this. Granted it still isn't a position adjustment. Rat...

P.S. whats this boom pole thing your using?
 
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Troy, your post sounds just like what I would say if I was describing what I do with my lift control. Your point about using this tecnique even on an easily adjustable control is well taken. I always support my hand by gripping something other than the movable control. It's just good technique./w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif

JimI
 
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#17  
Rat, this is a boom pole:

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It's a handy way to lift and move objects up to about 750lb or slightly less. Also, yes my tractor does have a needle valve that adjusts the drop rate of the 3 point hitch, but that's not the issue. The problem is a sticky, tight, control. I just don't know how to describe it to you, so the next time you are around your NH dealer, check out a TC35, TC40, or TC45 if you really want to see what I'm talking about./w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif

JimI
 
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In a previous post I stated:

<font color=blue>I didn't have the FEL on the tractor (another story entirely) and was unloading a new rotary cutter from a trailer for a neighbor.</font color=blue>

I have a loader...wasn't on the tractor...wouldn't have made any difference to the 3pth control if I had.

JimI
 
   / Lift too stiff #20  
jinman,I was talking to my local N/H dealer about this and he said no it shouldn't be that stiff,after looking at the workshop manual the only conclusion we could come to was lack of lube on the control arm where it goes into the housing or adjustment inside the hydraulic lift cover which means removing the cover and fixing the problem. He said this is a workshop job,which means taking your tractor to your dealer. I asked if contacting N/H North America could help as this problem has been experienced by other people as well as yourself and he said yes it would so as they can hopefully fix the problem. I would like to know N/H's answer Kerry.
 

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