Liquid fertilizer

[Kodiak45]

I have been trying to search for liquid fertilizer that I can use for my pasture and row crops and I can't find anything applicable to farming. Everything is directed towards small homeowner use. I want to try liquid vs dry, but I don't know where to turn and how much it is going to cost. I don't have a co-op close by, just tsc. Closest co-op is over an hour away. What do people use? Anybody tried diluting urea and spraying

 

[boomer1025]

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[Wagtail]

I know that some farmers here use/spread/spray 'blood & bone'. I've not used it myself but reckon that it's a value-added product from an abattoir. It's really stinks for a while (week or so) but works.

However there is a provision about nearby livestock, if I remember correctly. An equestrian centre in Werribee, Victoria couldn't 'long-term' board horses there due to the surrounding vegetable farms (who were there first) employing this fertiliser.

 

[thatguy]

My TSC carriers several liquid fertilizers in 5 gal jugs.. one is 10-10-10 and 20-0-0.. its toward the back in the agriculture section of chemicals and NOT in front with the yard stuff


Search Results for fertilizer liquid at Tractor Supply Co.


now sure how well it works though.. I have wondered the same thing

Brian

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

Do you mind if ask why liquid and not dry?

 

[Kodiak45]

My TSC carriers several liquid fertilizers in 5 gal jugs.. one is 10-10-10 and 20-0-0.. its toward the back in the agriculture section of chemicals and NOT in front with the yard stuff


Search Results for fertilizer liquid at Tractor Supply Co.


now sure how well it works though.. I have wondered the same thing

Brian

That's the lawn stuff I was referring to. That cost is about $5/lb of nitrogen. That's not even realistic when it comes to spraying acres.

 

[Kodiak45]

Do you mind if ask why liquid and not dry?

I'd prefer to spray herbicides and fertilizer at the same time if I can rather than use a dry spreader. Especially when it comes to a nitrogen application after crop emergence.

 

[DFB]

We often buy bulk liquid concentrate fertilizer for use at at the orchard to use with the sprayer tank usually buy 100 gal at a time. It comes in big reinforced poly container securely mounted on a pallet. It's still quite expensive plus you have pay deposit costs and truck delivery is phenomenal. I think the last invoice was like $900 bucks delivered. We often go pick it up ourselves now we have the equipment dually dump and loader forks to unload it. Still its almost whole day's time, plus fuel costs and man hour wages to go get it and bring it back

 

[smstonypoint]

I don't have a co-op close by, just tsc. Closest co-op is over an hour away. What do people use? Anybody tried diluting urea and spraying

Where are you located in SC?

Steve

 

[oosik]

Several years ago when I worked in an adjoining county, I became involved in a liquid fertilizer project. I was responding to a complaint of excessive odor.

It was an operation to clean out the effluent lagoon servicing a potato processing plant. A floating barge with a gigantic pump sucked the sludge & liquor from the lagoon and by 6" flexible hose pumped this slurry to a tractor with a multi-head injection system.

The slurry was being injected into the ground where the farmer grew wheat. The tractor with its injection system was around two miles from the lagoon. It was an interesting operation to watch. The operation lasted three days and when completed the odor vanished.

It was something of a symbiotic operation - the lagoon was cleaned and the farmer got a field fertilized for free.

 

[Catchad81]

Look up grasshopper fertizler. I've used some and a cattle farmer I know uses it.

 

[EddieWalker]

Try Craigslist and searching on Facebook. Around here, there are several people that make it and they are all over the place trying to sell it.

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

Let me begin by admitting that I know nothing about farming in South Carolina and I don't want you to get the impression that I'm telling you what to do on your own farm. With that said here's my train of thought. A typical pasture fertilizer(25% legume/75% grass) for KY is a N-P-K of 60-40-40. In rounded numbers that would be 100lbs of Urea, 90lbs of DAP, and 70lbs of Potash. How many gallons of liquid fertilizer do need to apply to reach those levels of units of N-P-K? There are a great many liquid starter fertilizers available for corn/tobacco and other crops but they are used to start the crop by being placed in the row(or near it). They are used in conjunction with a broadcast preplant application of dry fertilizer. There are foliar fertilizers on the market that mix well with herbicides and we have used them extensively. They work very well as a micronutrient "fix" to a already existing crop. Usually when zinc, boron, sulfur, magnesium, iron, copper etc deficiences exit. We have used foliar to provide P-K to a stressed crop, from weather, insects, herbicide burn, etc where P-K is deficient but only as a "patch" to get to harvest were the problem can be corrected with a dry application. Liquid nitrogen either 28% or 32% is very workable in crops that need extra or multipe applications of N after planting. But few herbicides mix liquid N and it is not foliar applied but dropped between rows. Consider how many gallons of liquid fertilizer will need to be applied to provide the levels of NPK needed for the crop and consider that most herbicides, insecticides, fungicides are applied using 10-15 gallons of water per acre. Can you get the two to match up?

 

[Deezl Smoke]

Let me begin by admitting that I know nothing about farming in South Carolina and I don't want you to get the impression that I'm telling you what to do on your own farm. With that said here's my train of thought. A typical pasture fertilizer(25% legume/75% grass) for KY is a N-P-K of 60-40-40. In rounded numbers that would be 100lbs of Urea, 90lbs of DAP, and 70lbs of Potash. How many gallons of liquid fertilizer do need to apply to reach those levels of units of N-P-K? There are a great many liquid starter fertilizers available for corn/tobacco and other crops but they are used to start the crop by being placed in the row(or near it). They are used in conjunction with a broadcast preplant application of dry fertilizer. There are foliar fertilizers on the market that mix well with herbicides and we have used them extensively. They work very well as a micronutrient "fix" to a already existing crop. Usually when zinc, boron, sulfur, magnesium, iron, copper etc deficiences exit. We have used foliar to provide P-K to a stressed crop, from weather, insects, herbicide burn, etc where P-K is deficient but only as a "patch" to get to harvest were the problem can be corrected with a dry application. Liquid nitrogen either 28% or 32% is very workable in crops that need extra or multipe applications of N after planting. But few herbicides mix liquid N and it is not foliar applied but dropped between rows. Consider how many gallons of liquid fertilizer will need to be applied to provide the levels of NPK needed for the crop and consider that most herbicides, insecticides, fungicides are applied using 10-15 gallons of water per acre. Can you get the two to match up?

And potassium (potash) is near impossible to get in high enough concentrations in affordable liquid form. Melted muriate of potash will only yield about an 0-0-14. The other liquid form of K are not cost effective for simple pasture or small grain farming. One needs a special high intensity crop to make them pay.

To the OP, many pesticides do not allow mixing with certain liquid fertilizers. You must read the label of each pesticide to know if it mix. And then, most will require some water added to the fertilizer mix for the pesticides.

In any case, that hour drive to a co-op is worth its money. They can blend you what you want for a fraction of the cost of the 5 gallon pails of home owner stuff.

 

[joeu235]

Around here urea is the only thing the corn farmers use. They inject it direct into the ground

 

[Kodiak45]

Where are you located in SC?

Steve

simpsonville

 

[Kodiak45]

Let me begin by admitting that I know nothing about farming in South Carolina and I don't want you to get the impression that I'm telling you what to do on your own farm. With that said here's my train of thought. A typical pasture fertilizer(25% legume/75% grass) for KY is a N-P-K of 60-40-40. In rounded numbers that would be 100lbs of Urea, 90lbs of DAP, and 70lbs of Potash. How many gallons of liquid fertilizer do need to apply to reach those levels of units of N-P-K? There are a great many liquid starter fertilizers available for corn/tobacco and other crops but they are used to start the crop by being placed in the row(or near it). They are used in conjunction with a broadcast preplant application of dry fertilizer. There are foliar fertilizers on the market that mix well with herbicides and we have used them extensively. They work very well as a micronutrient "fix" to a already existing crop. Usually when zinc, boron, sulfur, magnesium, iron, copper etc deficiences exit. We have used foliar to provide P-K to a stressed crop, from weather, insects, herbicide burn, etc where P-K is deficient but only as a "patch" to get to harvest were the problem can be corrected with a dry application. Liquid nitrogen either 28% or 32% is very workable in crops that need extra or multipe applications of N after planting. But few herbicides mix liquid N and it is not foliar applied but dropped between rows. Consider how many gallons of liquid fertilizer will need to be applied to provide the levels of NPK needed for the crop and consider that most herbicides, insecticides, fungicides are applied using 10-15 gallons of water per acre. Can you get the two to match up?

I absolutely appreciate your input and you definitely make a lot of sense from that perspective. I was hoping to get further away from dry broadcasting, but it doesn't sound realistic overall. The liquid idea would be for my pasture along with the 6 acres that I plant in corn and sunflower. I wasn't aware that most herbicides didn't mix with liquid N, I assumed there were some and I know I've seen that section on a few labels, but I normally skip that section for obvious reasons. I always have to spray herbicides both pre and post, so I hoped that fertilizing could be incorporated within this function, and maybe it can, but purely from a supplemental standpoint.

 

[TractorGuy]

This may be too expensive to use on a large scale but I am planning to try it in my yard for starters.

Pasture Pro Plus

My daughter and a close neighbor used the plain Pasture Pro herbicide this year and both pastures look amazing.

My yard on the other hand has a bunch of brown spots so something is killing it.

 

[Fossil Farm]

Around here urea is the only thing the corn farmers use. They inject it direct into the ground

You probably mean anhydrous ammonia. It is about 82 percent nitrogen, I believe. It has to be injected so as not to lose the nitrogen
to the air. 28 percent is a liquid nitrogen fertilizer that is fairly common around here for corn. It is also injected into the ground after
the corn has emerged. Urea is a dry pellet, 46 percent nitrogen. It needs to be spread before a rain so as not to lose the nitrogen
to the air because it will volatilize otherwise.

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

I don't mind at all trying to help but I don't want to sound like a know it all or being intrusive on what you do on your farm. Liquid fertilizer does have a place and I've used it a great deal but it is somewhat limited. I had success with it in gardens, fruit trees, flowers, tobacco, and some row crops that have been "stressed" by some factor. Most success has come from using it to supply "micro" nutrients. When a crop needs "pounds" or 100's of pounds of a nutrient it hasn't worked out for me. South Carlina may be different. In many cases we will make an application of herbicide, insecticide,fungicide and a foliar fertilize as the "last pass" over soybeans before harvest. We're getting geared to do that now. All of pasture/hay field get an application of dry in the spring. We mix red clover/alfalfa in the fertilizer. In some cases we will make a late summer/early fall light application of N to try and stockpile some grass for winter grazing. We also try and apply dry Potash in the fall/winter if we get time. Have a blessed day.