Tires Liquid in Tires

WV_Cavalier · Jun 11, 2005

Thanks for the comments on the anti-freeze. I'd actually forgotten about the animal angle! I was briefed recently that, yes, cats and dogs will lap it up. That's assuming it comes out of the tires (which is the whole thing on environment, anyway). This is one of those -- "I won't really have an alternative" situations.

John

KennedyDiesel · Jun 11, 2005

I believe my large R4's took40 gallons each of Rim Guard. Even that is not enough bal;last for a goodbucket fullof dirt. I've had a rear tire up in the air as far as it couldgo before the front pivot bottomed out quite a few times. Definitely need rear hanging weight...

dbelisle · Jun 11, 2005

I filled my tires with Propylene glycol, a food grade non toxic antifreeze that also has rust inhibitors in it.

I install it into hydronic heating systems up here in the North. But it is the same thing Walmart sells to winterize RVs.

I put in 25 gallons in each tire and then 10 gallons of water.
It added about 550 pounds to the tractor.

The only thing you have to be careful with is Galvinized steel doesn't like Propylene glycol. The glycol will react with it.

It is a little pricey but I am hoping I don't have to do it very often.

Dave in NH

gmsssi · Jun 12, 2005

In my neck of the woods, windsheild wiper fluid (-20F) is the going thing! Added about 1000 lbs to the tractor. I put 55 gallons (perfect amount to fill to a level of the valve stem at 12:00) in each of my R-4's on a Kioti DK45s. Wiper fluid cost was $100, best friend has a auto parts store....... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. Dealer was out of concentrate and we used his pump!

gpod · Jun 14, 2005

Here in South East Michigan some of us are using Beet juice yes made from real Beets, it was developed, as I was told at Michigan State University for tractors and at my place temps. get down to 10-20 below without the wind factor, have had it in my JD770 for 7-8 years no trouble in hot or cold won't rot rims and the oil in the juice is supposed to keep tires from rotting. Weight is about the same as calcium chloride price about same too. Wash up with soap & water.

txhawg · Jun 15, 2005

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Windshield washer fluid weighs over 9 lbs per gallon?

gmsssi · Jun 15, 2005

I couldn't help myself so I figured it out. Wiper fluid composition is 70% water and 30% methanol. Water weights 8.34 lb. per gallon and methanol weights 6.64 lb. per gallon. I put exactly 56 gallons of fluid in each of my R-4's. If my math is correct, I added approximately 874 lbs. to the tractor.

Varmintmist · Jun 16, 2005

I did the WW fluid also. At -20.... well if it gets colder than that without wind chill, the tractor will be inside...... as will I /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mine took about 45 gal/tire to the top of the rim. On the bathroom scale a gal of ww is 8lb, close enough. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I got the liquid adapter from TSC and gravity fed the WW into the tires. It took a while, but it is mostly a one handed job so you have a free hand for a beer or soda. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

timb · Jun 16, 2005

Don't forget the old schoolroom demonstration. 1 gallon of water and 1 gallon of alcohol do not make 2 gallons of solution. Due to how the water and alcohol molecules fit together - if I recall you'll lose roughly about 5% of the expected volume.

So in your 70/30 formation - a gallon of finished mix should have weighed in the neighborhood of 8.22 lbs (not the 7.83 lbs you expected) - for a total of around 921 lbs. in your tires.

I think.

Bonus. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif